Honestly he’d do it for free if you’re willing to sit and listen to him about moths.

And provide a succinct list of talking points and responses to chat to people at work about?

I quite literally know a guy.

It could be, alternatively if the company goes out of business tomorrow you lose.

The question you need to ask yourself is how it will do vs other options, I’m no investor by any means but I’d be wondering:

a) would an index fund beat it long term (historically you might see 7% annual gains on a fund that tracks NYSE over the same period)

b) why is it trading below its face value - everyone has the same information about this bond in theory, therefore bond traders are aware of the same thing, if it was a great deal it would be in demand and the price would rise. So someone more experienced than us has accounted for the return and the risk/reward for them says $80 is right.

c) does it beat inflation - $450 payoff seems nice now (assuming you save up all those $5s) 30 years ago it would’ve seemed even better, but $100 in 1997 has the spending power of $200 today - in 70 years time the $450 might have the equivalent spending power of $100 today. Which is to say your real terms return may only be $20 over 70 years.

Coupon rate is paid on the principal - assuming the hundo is accurate then it’s $5/yr. If you think Motorola will be around in 14 years then you’d have your investment back. If you think they’ll be around in another 70 years you get $350 + $100 because when it matures they need to repay the bond.

What in the everloving fuck. I had some kinda specific symptoms one weekend, I called the doc on Monday, he said come in this afternoon (must’ve been a bit worried, getting an appointment normally takes longer, I don’t want to misrepresent this).

I went in, we had a chat, he said come back tomorrow for a blood test. I dutifully went in for the test and went home. 8PM that night I got a call from an out of hours doctor, they said get yourself to A&E (emergency room). More bloods taken, I was triaged and admitted (which took about 36hrs - was a heavy time, I wasn’t super urgent).

Spent the next 5 weeks in hospital, I now have a life long condition which necessitates a lot of pills that I’ve been taking for a few years now.

Total out of pocket cost £0.

People still try to claim the US system is superior.

What are you trying to model? It’s far from unusable.

FreeCAD isn’t terrible, especially since v1, it’s rough round the edges at times, but definitely usable.

You remind me of Clarke’s third law, even in my own head this sounds a bit waffely but at the point one of them can fool all of us all the time how do we distinguish it from intelligence or something.

Okay, now airbus do freecad.

OH MY GOD THERE ARE BEARS SHITTING IN THE WOODS!

A Dutch guy mentioned it to me a few years back how far the brand has fallen, reminds me a bit of GE in the US. It’s kinda sad. The really crazy thing is a few of the investments they made and dumped have gone on to be key players in tech, like ASML.

Haven’t Philips enshittified almost entirely outside of healthcare products? Everything else is licensing the brand.

I’m beginning to wonder if AI is actually going to set us back technologically. Certainly it seems to be creating or widening a technology divide.

Probably more power than any actual king in the modern era.

Yeah, I should’ve been more clear in my original post - I was trying to convey why investors would like him and just ignored the profit bit.

I’m not sure what your point is, the investors care about the stock price because that’s their money in/money out. Lower profit could be fine if they’re, say, investing 150Bn/yr into a new venture that stands to be profitable in the future (may even drive the stock price up). It’s vibes based to a degree, quite a bit of analysis goes into a company’s performance as well.

FWIW their gross profit is also up more than 3x in the same time frame.

Are you being serious?

Have a look at the MSFT share price in 2014 when he took over ~$45/share and now ~$470/share - of course investors love him, he’s 10x their investments since he was appointed.

I was going to make a joke about big bee and then remembered actual honey is a huge fraud as well, a significant portion of what’s sold as honey isn’t actually honey. Need a good docu on that too.

I’m fairness the only time I remember being in a phone store in the last decade was because I got an esim when I got my new phone, phone company didn’t send me a qr code to get the esim and I lost access to my account because I couldn’t receive an SMS because my old physical SIM was disabled.