Honest question, because I know multiple people who are not looking to jump ship since they already have the Plex Pass.

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    if you install it and do not add plugins or mods or download them manually or with another tool, there is no way to pull subtitles.

    You also need to sideload the app because it’s not available in app stores.

    That’s the blockers for me… though the plugin for subtitles that now exists I have yet to try, and it may make it doable.

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        PS5, Fire TV Cube, Samsung TVs are what i’d use it on. Those app stores.

        I know android/ios has it nowadays, but manufacturers generally don’t want to offer apps that do not drive referrals or some kind of revenue sharing with competing services.

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            I can find github links to 3rd party clients dude to sideload. I know all about it.

            What I don’t want to do is support my extended friends and family who can figure out how to log into a plex tv app. I do enough tech support for money to not want to do it for free.

            The amazon appstore one has limited support and it really depends on the device… and often many aspects do not work as expected, like you can’t just play dolby vision files without forcing it to transcode on some hardware. I understand some of this is hardware limitations of various fire tv hardware, but again, don’t want to figure that shit out.

            Plus I would need to walk people through entering the network information, there’s no web portal that will let people in just by logging into a single plain as day website last I checked. Sure, I could pay for a no-ip sub or something or actually start paying for a domain but all of this stuff is even more work, when my existing setup just works and has none of these problems and has yet to intrude on usability for what I already have. When it gets worse i’ll obviously switch.

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      I have Bazarr as part of my ARR stack that pulls in subtitles for me so they show up no matter what I’m using to access the library, works like a champ!

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        I’ve wanted to setup much of the arr stack for a while, but even though I have a proxmox cluster and have a degree in computer networking (and do it for a living, firewall swap next saturday…) I really don’t want to go home and keep doing more of it.

        Eventually i’ll do it, when the pros outweigh the cons. It’s awesome that all of this stuff exists, but it’s a tough pill to swap from a totally hands off setup to something I need to keep an eye out for all the potential CVEs and updates.

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      Sideload in which appstore? Jellyfin requires adding functionality through plugins, instead of pre-bundling. Definitely something where more documentation and guidance would go a long way in helping us feel more confident in both using, and switching, to it.

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      Jellyfin has a builtin subtitle search and download tool I’m pretty sure. I know I’ve done it right from jellyfin, and I don’t think I’ve installed any plugin for that…

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        oh, you didn’t have to create an opensubtitles account and set it up on your server with the plugin? Someone told me about this like a day ago. Kinda weird this would even exist if there is robust subtitle support natively now. https://jellyfin.org/docs/general/server/plugins/open-subtitles/

        A year ago I was unable to source subtitles unless I provided them.

        My wife is an immigrant and some of her family doesn’t speak any English really, so subtitle support is of utmost importance for our household. Not just English subtitles either.

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        For kicks yesterday I installed jellyfin on a proxmox host with this script: https://community-scripts.org/categories?category=media-and-streaming&preview=jellyfin

        There’s definitely no subtitle sourcing by default. You can select from whatever subtitles are embedded or might be in the folder of the thing, but that’s it.

        It’s rough how many things are missing though. There’s no way to adjust subtitle offset. I can’t find the file name or path of a media file in the app on my fire cube. Multiple versions of files show up as duplicates (I have 480p, 1080p, and 4k copies of some media. I would expect it to give me a selection when I go to open said media between the versions, but instead it shows the same media multiple times.)

        Don’t get me wrong, for the price it can’t be beat. I wouldn’t advise anybody to go with plex today given their trend and sudden price increase for lifetime (limited time offer? lifetime must be ending soon! Hellgate London anyone?)