Wiping out entire cities is equivalent to a hate crime?

You’re delusional.

Jews were literally second class citizens under ottoman rule. They had fewer rights by law.

First off, I’m not even American so I don’t support Vance or any other American politician.

Secondly, you support the American government, which killed around half a million middle eastern civilians in retaliation for 9/11.

Thirdly, if Israel was trying to wipe out Palestinians they’re doing an absolute shit job of it. They’re barely killing them faster than the birth rate and it would take centuries to wipe them out at the current rate.

Finally, no you can’t say you support Palestinians and ignore what they stand for. You either don’t actually support Palestinians, or you support their war. Say you support not killing instead, and drop the Palestinian conditional.

Not false, not propaganda.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1517_Safed_attacks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1834_looting_of_Safed

Israel went to war because they were invaded by 5 other countries who weren’t happy with the lines the UN agreed upon.

This fight wasn’t just inevitable, it’s been an ongoing fight for thousands of years, Arabs have been attacking Jewish people for literally thousands of years in that region.

When the Ottoman empire collapsed because they supported the wrong side in the war, the victors got to decide what happened with it. You don’t get to lose a war, then just go back to peaceful enjoyment of your land like nothing happened. Wars have consequences. Maybe Palestinians should have done something about that before allowing their country to join world war one.

Even Germany lost land to it’s neighbors during the wars. I don’t see anyone here complaining about that land being colonized.

How exactly do you “colonize” a region that your ancestors been on for 2000+ years?

Remember, the first massive waves of Jewish people moving to Israel literally came there from concentration camps, refugee camps, and other displaced locations because of what happened around the world wars.

Of course it was a settler project, around 6 million Jewish people were killed in the holocaust, you think they all wanted to move back in next to the neighbors that had ratted them out to the government? They got absolutely fucked, and the UN had given them their ancestral homeland back when it broke up the country that had been in that region and lost in the great war.

Outraged that they’re now being used against them? Israel spent literally tens of billions of dollars on a missile defence system to reduce the effect of rocket attacks. They’ve been pissed off at Palestinians and other terrorist groups for attacking them for a very long time, in fact literally since the day after they declared independence and got invaded by 5 of the neighboring countries.

Your logic in no way helps your argument. If it’s actually a war that both sides want, then what the fuck are we doing complaining about civilian deaths on one side being lopsided? Should bigger countries always have to deal with smaller groups with kid gloves on? That’s just stupid, wars aren’t about being fair.

You can want them to stop fighting, but both of them want to be fighting right now. You aren’t going to pull them apart like in a bar fight, there’s no way to physically separate these two groups.

And the republican billionaires who think you will spoil races.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/republican-allies-jill-stein-green-party-democrats-ballots-battleground-states/

PA doesn’t operate in Gaza.

Palestinians support attacking civilians in Israel. That makes it a war.

They lost support when they saw the consequences of their choices. That still makes them terrorist sympathizers, they had to support it initially in order to abandon support.

They still support an act of mass violence against civilians, so it makes them hypocritical when they condemn the current mass violence against their own civilians.

Does it really matter? They supported it for at least a few months after it happened. They were happy that Hamas killed a thousand Israeli civilians and took hostages.

That being said, I mentioned it has dropped because of the consequences they faced, the latest numbers came out yesterday or the day before. It’s now down to 39% support for the attack.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/palestinian-poll-finds-big-drop-support-oct-7-attack-2024-09-17/

I am not arguing in bad faith. The fact that you think my claims are unbelievable is part of the problem, you’re clearly uneducated on the situation along with the vast majority of Palestinians supporters. Here’s the sources.

71% support for the Oct 7th attack as of March 2024 both in Gaza and the West bank https://www.pcpsr.org/sites/default/files/Poll 91 English press release 20 March 2024.pdf

PCPSR is the Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research, an entirely Palestinian organization.

Support for the attack has deteriorated since then, but they were very happy with it until the real consequences started.

Only 5 percent of Palestinians think Hamas’s massacre on October 7 constitutes a war crime. https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2024/03/22/poll-hamas-remains-popular-among-palestinians/

As for the funding…

Last February, the State Department(US) said that Hamas raises funds in other Gulf countries and gets donations from Palestinians, other expatriates and its own charities. https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/hamas-cash-to-crypto-global-finance-maze-israels-sights-2023-10-16/

A) Fuck this racist piece of shit.

B) Anyone who says they support Palestinians but not Hamas are intentionally being ignorant, since the vast majority of the Palestinians in Gaza support Hamas and their attack(s) on Israel based on decently reputable local polling (not sourced by Israel)

People need to take their head out of the sand and realize that this isn’t just an Israeli invasion, it’s a war that both sides want to keep fighting. It’s just a stupid war since Palestine is significantly weaker and getting their ass handed to them. The only reason Hamas is even still able to keep fighting is they’re being heavily funded with money and weapons from outside countries that want to weaken Israel. Gaza is dirt poor, they have no militarily exploitable resources or weapons production ability.

State government. This isn’t a federal matter since the supreme court was hijacked.

And the article points out that the new group he is associated with is partially owned by Peter thiel

Do you know how many Americans the US government kills in the US? Why would they give a shit about one more far away?

Lol.

Shouldn’t they charge themselves with genocide first?

The US killed more than half a million civilians in the middle east in retaliation for 9/11

Did everyone forget this? Or does it just not count when it’s the US that does it.

Why are Palestinian American voices important? Why not call for someone to speak who actually lives there right now? Otherwise all you’re getting is “I talked to my auntie on the phone and she said…”

Palestinian Americans make up like 0.05% of the US population, and importantly, they don’t live in Palestine anymore. Palestine isn’t a country, it has never been a country. It’s not an ally of the US, and in fact it regularly attacks an established ally of the US. That ally spent billions of dollars on a missile defence system and walls to reduce the damage of those attacks, and still had them punch through and kill a thousand civilians.

Palestine does ally itself with enemies of the US though, with countries like Iran sending both weapons and financial aid to terrorist groups within the region. You might say that Hamas is not Palestine, well… There is majority support for Hamas in Gaza still, it’s not like they’re some fringe group that the people don’t like.

Are Palestinians civilians dying? Yes.

“Hide behind civilians” is literally in the Guerilla Warfare 101 handbook, and Hamas knows how to read.

Should the US assist in wars if civilians are getting harmed? Clearly yes. Otherwise countries and groups will just take advantage of the US by hiding behind civilians even more. Hell, the US harmed civilians themselves in their own wars in the middle east, in far greater numbers than what’s happening in Gaza right now. There were entire movies made about how bad clearing towns was, and how the terrorists hid behind and used civilians. Israel is just doing this the more forceful way.

This also isn’t just about Palestine, this whole fucking thing is a Proxy war between Israel (and the west) and Iran. Iran keeps sending in money and weapons, and in return Israel gets weakened by having do deal with all this bullshit. Iranians doesn’t have to endanger it’s own people or borders, and you know they really don’t care about the Palestinians dying because there are no Palestinian refugees in Iran. Google it, there’s a report from the UN on that.

The phones are probably for the volunteer organization. It’s not uncommon to see things like that so they can run phone campaigns where they call everyone on their list trying to raise funds or let them know about certain events.