I dont understand

I can’t possibly see how this ends poorly.

You’re so wrapped up in politics you’re not listening to what I’m saying or why I’m saying it. My opinions have nothing to do with left or right wing, they have to do with my direct experience in the field over the last decade. I’ve been in/worked coal,trash, gas and cogen plants. If the USA was building a new coal plant in my area I’d be on the line protesting it. I’ll say again, the US has dedicated more resources to renewables than any other country aside from China. Saying new coal plants shouldnt be built doesnt make me republican… China plans to use coal as a primary source until 2060. You can dislike fox all you want, I do too but it has nothing to do with my views.

You realize China is constructing NEW coal plants right, plural? Massive coal fired steam systems. What, because they dont have access to nat gas, nuke, oil or renewables? The last coal plant built in the US was over a decade ago and that was fucking stupid. The US has dedicated tremendous resources to renewables and continue to do so. Pointing out other countries short comings doesn’t stop that. Coal should cease being used as a fuel, new plants are a ridiculous technology to sink money in. Total carbon is the main issue, coal produces the most by a huge margin. Part of why the US is so high is due to our cars, accounting for more than 30% of total emissions. China on the other hand only emits 10% from cars. The majority of their emissions come from COAL. I’m a mechanical engineer working in a major power plant. I’m passionate about this, my opinions come from research, schooling and experience, not a news station. Coal shouldn’t be used as a fuel,cars should be electric whenever possible, developing nations should be given/sold the resources needed for renewables, nuclear power should be the global standard, a combination of renewables/gas/nuke is best, turbines still use lubricating oils so we need to develop turbines that don’t. You can want me to believe these things because I watch fox, but, I don’t. China shouldn’t use coal, the US should do more in the renewables space, both things can be true.

China is number one carbon emissions and coal powers 60% of their grid. This is my career.

I literally just hate coal. I haven’t fallen for anything. I just very strongly believe coal fired steam systems should cease existing. I look at gigawatts generated and what the fuel is that fed that number. Coal is the worst of all the currently used fuels. The countries using it the most should stop. Emissions per capita are high in the US because we have and use so many electrical luxuries. We have steadily been increasing generation from renewables and we will continue to do so. Calling out countries Who use the most of the worst fuel doesn’t make me right wing. Stop using the worst fuel.

Is it super cement though?

Coal bad, China meh.

Nobody should be using coal. Nobody NEEDS to use coal. Its not like you use coal for awhile then level up and it turns to renewables. Developing nations should be given/sold the necessary resources to be self sufficient.

I’m absorbing and disagreeing completely.

Saying India and China shouldnt use coal has nothing to do with the USA decarbonizing. The US has, and continues to utilize renewables at mass scale. Pretending issues in other countries don’t exist just let’s global emissions continue to climb. I’m anti coal, thats kind of like my thing.

The USA gets about 30% of its electricity via renewables. The USA gets about 14% of its electricity through coal (14% too much). China gets about 30% of its electricity via renewables and about 60% of its electricity via coal. I can call that out for being bad without it being implied I think oil is best, no? China is the current number 1 for new renewables, USA is number 2. One of the big issues that is ignored is the exorbitant amount of electricity Americans use residentially.

We are doing something… More than a quarter of our electricity comes from renewables and less than 15% come from coal (should be zero across the board across the globe). We are number 2 globally in new renewables. Behind number 1 China, a country in which 60% of electricity generated is from coal.

China is number one followed closely by the USA as number two. A larger percentage of our energy comes from renewables than china and we burn SIGNIFICANTLY less coal. 2024 we burned 411 million tons and China burned about 4.5 billion. Make the per capita argument all you want, 4.5 billion is still 4.5 billion and 411 million is still 411 million. You’re absolutely right, the demand is one of the bigger issues nobody knows what to do about.

Nobody should be burning coal. Full stop. I’m not on the right, I’m a power plant engineer. A combination of nat gas, hydro, nuclear, solar and wind needs to be used GLOBALLY. Bringing up the worst offenders doesn’t make me any less against the rampant waste the US also produces.

In 2024 India 1.3 billion tons In 2024 the U.S. burned 411 tons

I’m not laying blame I’m saying we as a species need to stop burning coal. The US shouldn’t be doing it and neither should any other country. The US as I said, has been consistently improving methodology of generation. We have not however curbed our electricity use its only increased. It will continue to increase in an incredibly dramatic fashion more with electric cars, AI data centers and residential draw. We aren’t that high in polution per capita because we are burning fuel poorly. We are high because we use such a significant amount more per person. The issue is less the fuel, more the habits we as Americans have. I’m a mechanical engineer working in stationary engineering for a large cogen power plant. Emissions have steadily gotten better and better throughout my time in the field.

India burns a bit more than double the coal the USA does. It also accounts for 75% of their electricity generation fuel. Whereas in the usa its less than 14%. So India burns less per capita but significantly more by weight and their entire grid is based on coal. Nobody should be burning coal for electric generation period. The USA has consistently gotten better and better with emissions while excuses are made for India/China. We are getting better and have been getting better, look at the amount of nat gas plants, solar fields, hydroelectric, wind and cogen facilities that have popped up in the last couple decades.

China and India need to stop burning BILLIONS of tons of coal a year. Everyone needs to stop burning coal in general.

Oh yeah, you and I have a completely different idea of how the world works.

Sounds reasonable tbh.