

Especially since the Nazis stole our eagle first.


Especially since the Nazis stole our eagle first.


My favorite variant of that is ‘A misprinted calendar is right once a year.’


Yeah, anyone who has their religious orientation in their bio gets an immediate cautious approach from me. It’s rare that I meet someone who has a perspective like that and they’ve interpreted their psychological drug of choice as an imperative to actually be nice to everyone.


Second this, flashing it with Debian and using it for KODI and maybe RetroArch is the way to go.


But I did those sorts of things with Sims as a release mechanism,
And there it is. That was all I needed to know.
Have a good one.


Exactly. It’s not a real, conscious living thing. But anyone who takes the time to program a machine to feel pain, and then comes up with creative ways to inflict that pain, is a bad person.
It’s the premeditated, deliberate, creative effort to hurt something that can provide negative feedback. The recipient obviously isn’t a real person. But the executor is a real person, making real choices. And I would bet you five bucks that they have personal relations (parents, friends, romantic partners) who’ve expressed concerns about similar behavior around real people.


I just gave you the answer.
The first house is designed by someone who knows the game well and is cutting out annoyances purely for QOL purposes. Ovens burn down the house and kill Sims, Sims drown in swimming pools, Sims wash dishes in bathroom sinks, and Sims wander off through any open door when you want them to stay put.
The second house is designed by someone who knows the game well and is playing it because they like torturing and killing their Sims. The entire floor plan is designed to kill, maim, and otherwise torment any cluster of variables unlucky enough to be trapped there.
Obviously, both players are making these decisions purely for their own enjoyment or comfort and the immersion of the game is inconsequential. No real people are hurt. However, the first player is making practical choices that make the game more functional. The second player is probably naming Sims after people who annoy them in real life and sticking them in the murder house.
Social behaviors are rehearsed in play. That’s Psych101. So, your turn. Would you say that the person who set up this experiment with these LLMs is capable of normal human empathy? Yes or no?


What he wants people to hear is “empathy misapplied to those who do not deserve it”. What he’s really trying to do is normalize psychopathy and Machiavellianism.


Okay, let’s set up a scenario, then.
You have two adults playing the Sims 4. One designs a house with only one exterior door, no oven, no sink in the bathroom, and no swimming pool. The other designs an open floor plan with no interior doors, no privacy in the restroom, ovens on every floor, and a backyard that’s nothing but one big swimming pool with just one ladder.
Which one is the psycho, and which one isn’t?


The people committing atrocities against hypothetical, imaginary people would do it to real, actual people for the exact same reasons if they had the same ability and impunity.
It’s the same broken empathy response, and it is still disturbing. One is orders of magnitude more significant, for obvious reasons. But I don’t like people who torture computers either.
Edit: If you think that I think you’re a bad person because you play Doom sometimes, or deleted the ladder on the swimming pool in Sims 4, relax. You’re not who I’m talking about.
I’m talking about sadists. Anyone who would take the time to design and build an experiment like this would probably do the same to mice, or monkeys, or even people. Sadists get their jollies off on the idea of inflicting pain, it’s why they enjoy games that let them make cruel decisions. Not everyone who plays violent video games is a sadist. Assuming that is ridiculous. But every sadist I’ve ever met has had at least one game where their save file could be used as evidence for mens rea in a domestic abuse trial.


Something tells me this man has never gotten a hug from a furry.
Im not a furry. But furries give world-class hugs.


I understand that this may be your preference. You’re well-known to be a person of unique tastes, we might say. But all the same, for your safety, as an acquaintance, I really would advise against it.


Never stick your dick (literal or metaphorical) in crazy. It never ends well.


I was just about to point this out.


Consider, an abuser will use any means or method within their power to inflict fear on their victims. It’s one of two languages they tend to speak; Intimidation or Flattery.
This woman was refusing to play his game, so he used the most effective means within his ability to hurt her; hacking her car. The obvious solution is to not associate with abusive people, but in the event that it’s already happened or otherwise unavoidable, the second solution is to remove their tools and create distance.
This represents an abuser being given tools to harass or even try to kill a victim by a company that prioritizes marketability and convenience over safety. If Tesla had been more thorough, this man wouldn’t have total control over this woman’s car.
Man, if I were Josh, I’d look like I was scrolling my phone making up a reason to leave too.


What dark, forbidden necromancy did they have to dig out of the pits of the occult to reanimate his dry-ass carcass?!
Fuck, just let this monster lie down and quit already. At this point, it’s abuse of a corpse.


Imagine getting thrown into the oubliette for growing Girl Scout Cookies next to the roses.


“Poorer and dirtier” says guy proud to claim that he was raised as white trash.
source: was also raised white trash, but did manage to develop class consciousness.
Fun fact: Depression affects many things. Attention span, reaction time, engagement, memory, higher reasoning, spatial awareness… All things that (tangentially or directly) affect perceived intelligence.
Pretty damn good chance that we’re all sad because we know damn well just how fucked the world is, and we burned out before we ever got a chance to try.
… that said, I’ll totally take that hug. Hugs are great. 🫂