“You support the American government”
What a brain dead thing to say. Yeah, we do, because we live here and have to pay taxes. We only have so many things we can do as normal citizens, only so many people we can vote for. Seeing you say all these bad faith statements constantly makes you look like a troll.
Also, you don’t have to live in America to support JD Vance. Plenty of non Americans support Harris or Trump, wtf are you on about?
It’s so silly when people act like the US has zero culture.
The modern hamburger is widely considered to have been popularized in the U.S. in the late 19th or early 20th century.
Source: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/uncovering-the-history-of-the-hamburger-81593708/
Hot dogs, or frankfurters, were popularized in the U.S., particularly at baseball games, with the modern version emerging here.
Source: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/01/dining/hot-dogs-america.html
Buffalo wings were invented at the Anchor Bar in Buffalo, New York, in 1964.
The boxed version of macaroni and cheese was popularized in the U.S., particularly by Kraft.
Source: https://www.history.com/news/a-history-of-macaroni-and-cheese
Modern peanut butter was developed in the U.S. by several inventors, including Dr. John Harvey Kellogg.
Source: https://www.nationalpeanutboard.org/news/how-did-george-washington-carver-invent-peanut-butter.htm
Cornbread has roots in Native American cuisine and was developed further in the U.S., especially in Southern cooking.
Source: https://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/articles/history-of-cornbread
The Cobb salad was invented at the Brown Derby restaurant in Hollywood, California, in the 1930s.
Source: https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2006-apr-12-fo-cobb12-story.html
Chocolate chip cookies were invented by Ruth Wakefield at the Toll House Inn in Whitman, Massachusetts, in 1938.
American-style barbecue originated in the U.S., with distinct regional varieties such as Texas, Carolina, and Kansas City BBQ.
Source: https://www.southernliving.com/bbq/origin-history-american-barbecue
Jell-O was invented in 1897 by Pearle Bixby Wait in LeRoy, New York.
Source: https://www.jellogallery.org/jell-o-history.html
These URLs link directly to each source where you can explore more about these iconic American foods.
And he had all that before he got all this bad news about his only chance to avoid accountability.
“The right people” I see what you did there.
Because addressing the problem the wrong way can make it worse. I don’t want it to be worse. Demonizing Harris and given Trump a better chance hurts everyone, Gaza included. I’m trying to step back and look at the big picture and far reaching implications.
I have no idea your “side”, I’m not going after one side, you seem to be the only one calling out parties.
And I’ve said I’m voting for Harris multiple times. If you don’t care and keep ignoring that, why should I extend greater courtesy to you?
Because I’ve never said your not voting for her, simply that your comments could impact other voters. You’ve said I don’t care multiple times when I’ve said the opposite. You seem more interested in a sick burn than being accurate.
While also saying that objections to genocide are making people vote for Trump.
Never said that once. I never said being against genocide means you’re pro Trump. I’ve even said I’m against it. Holy crap you are dishonest.
Imagine being emotional when your party is supporting genocide and is openly hostile to any attempt to stop or even slow it. This is monstrous and disgusting and unconscionably immoral. No US politician of any party has any business supporting this, let alone Democrats, the “moral high ground” party.
Imagine trying to solve a problem with emotion not logic. That’s exactly what you’re trying to do.
The lion’s share of your vitriol is directed at the critics of genocide, not at its perpetrators or enablers.
Wrong again. I’m trying to prevent genocide being the middle east, you seem to have blinders on.
Well, if you have a problem with the anti-genocide=trumper accusation, you’re certainly not raising that concern with those who are making it.
Ok, so in the absence of you knowing my stance you feel comfortable making assumptions. Seems like a logical path to truth. Ffs…
If you have so much difficulty imagining having objections to genocide that you assume dishonesty
You toss all nuance out the window to build this straw man. Genocide isn’t the only thing in the world happening. And like I said in my last comment the “but” is because context exists. We could enslave them all and that would fix the genocide. I can only assume you’re in favor of that because it would stop genocide, no buts.
Because you’re only attacking Dems for supporting it while ignoring how Reps are reacting to it. Only attacking one side very much seems like you are favoring the other.
there’s always a but.
Yes because nuance exists. We could wipe out life on the entire planet, that would stop genocide. I’m guessing you’re in favor of that then, any means justifys the end huh? Or we could maybe take over and enslave both sides, that could stop genocide. You might say “yah but we just turned them into slaves”, to which I would say “there’s always a but.”
From what I’ve seen on lemmy, no side is.
This is pure dishonesty. In our convo alone I’ve said it’s bad and we should work to stop it.
I’m already voting for her.
While painting her as a horrible person that no and vote should vote for. Unless your saying people should vote for a pro-genocide candidate now.
How many times do you intend to ignore that I’m voting for Harris?
I dunno, when are you going to acknowledge that while you’re still voting for her you can actively turn votes away from her?
I’ve said genocide is bad multiple times, what do you want a video of me crying? Jesus. I’ve said I’m against it, I’ve even said we need to push for change. You just don’t want to hear that, I don’t agree with you on every single point so you want to immediately other me and make assumptions about my stance.
You seem to be operating more off emotion than logic…
No, I’m acknowledging that how you discuss it can impact an election. Are you honestly so dense that you don’t understand that?
And no, that’s not what I want and it’s not what I said, but please keep continuing this pattern of telling me how I feel and what I want. It seems you do have a mind reading ray, otherwise these claims would be extremely ignorant.
Ah maybe that’s just me, I don’t like to push stereotypes and make sweeping assumptions lol
Wow the amount of assumptions and speculation there. You’re not interested in an honest conversation huh?
I find it interesting that people like you, who are “anti-genocide” can’t help themselves from telling others how they think and feel. Might be a hint that your stance is dishonest.
Ugh, your just as bad as Trump and MAGA with these childish comments. Please at least try to have an adult conversation, if your “fee-fees” can manage.
Being “pro-genocide” means they like and want it. That’s not the reality, and if you think she really loves genocide you’re a lost cause.
And I agree we should fight it, we should stop genocide but right now, which side do you think it’s more open to thatb conversation? Because it’s not the side that wants to removing voting. So I say get her in to office at all costs to protect democracy and then work to fix that.
I’m just not ready to let the country burn to the ground over this and put us in a situation where we no longer even have a voice to speak out against it. People don’t seem to understand what’s at risk here in the US and the longer term effects it would have. Was in the middle east and Eastern Europe could become the norm.
“You lot”? What lot am I lol, I’m curious what stereotypical bucket you’ve decided I’m in.
You then put “little thing” in quotes. I’ve never once called genocide a little thing, ever. This is more dishonesty. I said it makes her less desirable, that’s reality, I expressed that with a 10 point scale. What do you want me to make her and Trump both 0/10, act like they’re the same?
But somehow I don’t care because I can see that all things considered one candidate is better than the other. You seem to tell me how I feel, who I am, and what I think. And now you’re telling me this doesn’t even matter to me? How transparent …
Ok well I stopped reading the rest. Your not even making a point you’re just making wild assumptions and telling me who I am. Well I can tell you what I’ve observed about you. You don’t care about facts, reality, or nuance. You’re a hyped up activist that has lost the plot all for this crusade. You’re willing to let the world burn and attack anyone who doesn’t think this is all that matter in the world.
You need to grow up and understand that wars and death happen throughout history. Most people don’t like it, and since you can’t stop making wild assumptions let me state clearly that I don’t like it. But if we drop everything and hyper focus on every single war while letting corrupt politicians who want to stop voting and remove rights at home then it helps nothing. If Trump is in office not only does he not help either, but he causes more harm. The net amount of suffering in the world goes up, and that’s what matters. I’m looking at the global stage and you can’t seem to expand your mind to see the big picture.
Keep ranting and raving if you want. Tell me who I hate and that I love seeing people die or whatever, I don’t care. You’re a lost cause.
Sure, and if you make people not vote for her, increasing Trumps chance to win, so be it. I suppose you’re ok with that outcome.
I’d rather do whatever I can to get her in office then push for change. If US democracy falls apart with Trump then we have much larger problems than war in the middle east.
We as in the US. Because the comment was made “If 60% called for a ban on weapons sales, you better believe it’ll be reflected in the platform.”
What is with people like you making wild leaps in bad faith.
And what exactly can I do to stop it aside from vote? You act like you have all the answers so please tell me what the average low income American can do to stop a war half way across the world. I’ll wait for the how to guide.
Never said I demand anything, I said I vote. You seem to make it a habit of putting words in peoples mouths to fit your agenda. You own a farm? Because you’re building straw men like crazy lol.
I dunno, it is a very odd thing for you to do. It’s also very odd to tell citizens of another country how to behave and interact with their government. What country praytell are you living in? Are you personally making an effort to stop every bad thing their doing or do you just embrace your hypocrisy full force? Oh no, I bet you’re a “wait till people start dying to care” kinda guy.