Well, you asked if I was arguing against improving safety when compared to fatality rates for any activity.

But for me to have made that argument, I’d have to have said that there is no rate of fatality that would justify improving safety. So, I was asking if you think that’s true:

Does no threshold for the rate of any cause of death justify improving safety?

But I sucked at wording it clearly. That’s on me.

In short, no, I’m not arguing that. Really, I was just clarifying what the person you responded to was saying. I’m not making an argument either way.

Does no threshold for the rate of any cause of death justify improving safety?

Well, nothing is 100% safe, and we allow plenty of things that are demonstrably unsafe to continue. So if you compare bike-car collisions against say, firearm suicides in the US, you’ll see that bike-car collisions aren’t that bad.

The fundamental argument is that nothing is totally safe, but some things are safer than others.

More like if you contextualize the incidents of bicycles and pedestrians with cars, you might realize they’re safer than you think. This is absolutely false for cars and pedestrians though in America at least.

Exactly

What’s particularly strange about it is that it doesn’t really serve any purpose for a vast majority of people aside from a government-approved official statement that someone finds their in-laws unbearable.

That’s a pretty good purpose. Everybody can save face by taking part in bureaucracy. That sounds like I’m being facetious, but I’m serious. Think about the alternative: avoiding them awkwardly all the time or telling them to screw themselves directly, which will engender negative feelings. At least with the bureaucracy, the sentiment gets filtered through a impartial, uncaring medium.

The sympathy campaign begins

It sounds good if you don’t think about anything

Exactly. Don’t uphold the law to avoid being shamed by Republicans. Do it because it’s the right thing to do and because it’s extremely important to the integrity of our society.

Who cares if they do? They literally lie to slander the “radical left” as they call it. They’re shameless and half the eligible voters are too.

That’s too broad sighted. They don’t care about the country. They’d be plutocrats of a well with a Korean curse on it if meant they had more water than the poors.

More the love of money is the root of all evil

Sometimes, I forget how awful Trump is.

He can say true truly outrageous things and then somehow have them written off as less important than they really are because the media reports on it.

LOL, I hope they ban it.

I love women, and a ban would galvanize them like abortion did in 2022. And then Clarence Thomas can die, Biden or Harris, whichever is alive at the time, can replace him with a young upstart progressive and then get shit done and undo the absolute bullshit that’s been going on for the last four years.

For once, I sincerely hope they obey their evil corporate masters.

Can you explain to me how this is a joke?

His audience laughed because they’re dumb. But to me, this looks like the negging thing where you anticipate being called out for your insult and say “It’s a joke. It’s just a joke!”

It’s insane how we’ve relied far too long on a sort of gentleman’s agreement around presidents and congress and all. I don’t think the founding fathers could have EVER anticipated the amount of corruption that could occur.

They did. The entire point of the structure of Congress was to ensure that the passions of the people were tempered and “cooled” through the political process. Between competition between the three branches and the structure of government, they did their best to ensure this wouldn’t happen.

What they didn’t anticipate was that competition would give way to collaboration among so many competing elements. From state legislatures to the federal House and Senate, across to the Supreme Court (intended to be insulated from political generally to focus on the well-being of the nation), and across again to the president. Those stars shouldn’t align all that often. But anti-American authoritarians, the underhanded bastards they are, have made it so that those stars align more often than not for their political goals.

So, that’s the problem. What do you do when all the elements of the government are working together? Sure, Trump absolutely abused his position, but so what? We’re barely holding any of these anti-Constitutional people responsible for the damage they’ve done to the political process and democracy in general.

So you don’t want teachers, social workers, or nurses then?

I’m guessing…when Ron DeSantis stopped collecting covid statistics and then turned around and said he studied the science himself instead of listening to the actual scientist, and that’s why Florida’s economy was so strong post pandemic?

Ah yeah, I remember when I was in the locker room talking about grabbin’ pussy and murdering people. We were such bad boys back then!

Maybe instead of a fine, it’ll any amount of jail time instead.