But that would make Trump a war criminal, and the US public would not stand for that, no sir they wont! They would rise up and march in the streets until that genocide stopped!

Its pretty clear now that progressives are a different party entirely than dems.

LOTS of poeple, including Arab Americans felt that their interests werent represented by either party. So they voted against the system in general.

In Wayne County, Arab American precincts rejected Kamala Harris

Turns out war crimes dont win votes.

“kiddo” = automatic downvote.
Feel free to disagree with people but that sort of toxic disrespect just promotes slapfighting and we all need less of that.

Conservative democrats are republicans. The dems made their tent so big that it has lost all meaning. I dont recall dem politicians ever going to the right of repubilcans in the past. It would have seemed impossible. Biden/Harris normalized it.

progressives are already 8% of voters. We can make or break elections now.

The DNC is controlled by delegates elected by primary voters.

I’m afraid thats not entirely true. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superdelegate

Also, party leadership constantly changes the rules to suit the election cycle. They are a private entity and can run primaries however they want. In the DNC vs Sanders case, they successfully argued that they can elect canddates in a smoke filled back room if they so chose, and had no legal duty to fairness or in representing the will of the voters whatsoever.

worst case is nothing changes and you get put on a donor list and passed around to politicians you dont even like.

The dems used to win on policy, but now they do whatever they want (or are paid to do) regardless of the will of their voter base.

centrists.

The entire democratic party lost. The house, the senate. Everything. Virtually every voting demographic (except one), and women voted less than during 2016 and 2020.

This sweeping 2024 loss across all areas is not because Kamala is female.

she receives classified info because she’s the backup in case the president dies, not because Biden allows it or controls it. You are simply making stuff up and dont understand the role of VP at all.

Biden/Harris supporting war crimes that 88% of the dems were against was “smart” too, eh. Lots of “smart” going on in our party lately. Or whats left of a party. Its been burned to the ground, and it needs to be rebuilt to repreent the will of the constituents not monied interests.

secret negotiations

wishful thinking on your part.

We’ll never know now.

thats a pretty meager list for 20 years. They also Lost abortion, lost the courts, lost on progressive taxation, committed war crimes, expanded the police state, and faild to improve the minimum wage, and expanded the number of working poor.

Agreed. Bidens history as a legislator is actually pretty loathsome. Its some sort of miracle that he was elected the first time.

I find your fear of alienating monied groups to be troubling considering the outcome of standing with them was losing the election and the electorate longer term.

Also some of those groups like the “powerful Pro-Israel groups” are ethically indefensible, and standing with them should have been a no-go from the first milisecond based on principle.

Sure she could have. VP cant be fired by the president and has no official duties beyond tie breaking in the senate. She didnt need to follow Bidens directions at all. Worst thing that could happen is that Biden could mean-girl it and ask some of his donors not to fund her. Thats about it.