the post of tom joad

Hang on, lemme make a phone call

“president xi? i’ve been compromised… yes, again”

Lol their entire comment reads like a mishmash fever-dream of state department prop. I can’t even in this thread mannn ill leave these folks to to you.

That’s not what’s happening here.

I don’t see why we can’t both be right. The R’s are fracturing and the Democratic party is moving rightward as it absorbs the moderate Rs.

Of course the Democratic party is going to support and amplify the GOP falling to pieces.

Yes, they do. My larger point (mentioned in a separate comment) is, after the dust of the election settles, which voters will the Democratic party cater to? They aren’t just gonna let those modeRate voters sit and spin, right? Leftwing Democrats are democrats too and they’ve been hoping for a chance to pull the party left. Things important to leftists are kinda getting ignored this campaign in favor of hard right Dems, and leftists of course must vote for kamala and hope to use their voices, after getting her elected, to try n move the party left.

For leftists, watching the DNCs embrace voters to the right of the entire Democratic party is like watching that dream die in real time.

What we’re seeing now is that this is much closer to the ideology of traditional Republican

Right? They’re actively courting moderate Republican voters, but those voters are to the right of right-wing Dem voters. At the same time, Dem Party is punching down at the left side of its own “big tent”, giving in to none of the demands asked.

So far the only thing on offer from Dem party to leftists is derision and shame, and while shaming (and Trump fears) might work short term, if the Dem party won’t budge the leftists will simply leave. Then one morning “moderate” dem voters will wake up to find themselves on the “extreme” left of the party they thought they knew.

Can the Democratic Party stop openly fantasizing that it is the Republican party? Please?

Edit: don’t be mad at me y’all. You DVn MFs are gonna pretend you knew this was a bad sign later on when it turns out I’m right so why not skip ahead to that part now?

You can be ahead of the curve for once

Prolapsed

Yo line cooks sell the mf drugs i know this is anecdotal but i’ve watched my expo run outside and pay a a guy not to tow his car.

Always because yes

“Now” was the most effective part? Noted for future.

Alright meow, hand over your license and registration

You’re white dogg that’s why that works. Stop talking as if you know a goddamn thing. Now.

what if you just… never hit ‘reply’ after this brainfart?

I can’t stand celeb gossip but heard the rumor she liked a trump tweet or something, did that turn out true? Unverified? Or is there more shit on brit i haven’t heard yet?

the Supreme court justices have exempted themselves from prosecution for accepting gifts through previous decisions and C. Thomas was not required to recuse himself in the Jan 6 cases involving his own wife so let’s go with no policing at all.

Iunno Rex Hupke but don’t act like you were ever on their side. All this opinion artiste ever said was in defence of biden’s age and his candidacy. Is he now saying he considers age a factor in his reasoning?

Whatever point this mf might have on this topic i don’t want to hear it from him

i agree with specific point you’re making about the cause of shootings being lack of healthcare access in the US. You are also correct in my opinion that all three things are necessary for a healthy society. I think you might be missing your own point here with a typical assumption i see thrown out by the media, that asking for one of those 3 things precludes our ability to have the others. In other words, that we can’t advocate equally for all 3 at the same time!

The idea that it is impossible for the US govt to work on these things in tandem over DECADES (these issues are DECADES in the making) is pervasive, effective, and inhibits progress on any. So why does it persist?

Somehow while we know we should have them all, we are convinced to argue we cannot have one without the other first. Should not ask for one without the other more important issue first.

The thing i’m trying to say is, yes we can. The government is (yaknow, hypothetically) able to tackle multiple issues at once and anyone who gets tricked into arguing which one we should pick allows the big G to have an excuse for not working on ANY of them.

As you say, without all three the problems will not cease, they’ll just change shape. All the more reason to advocate for each, always, until they’re tackled, one by one.

shiiiii it doesnt even get to us s’more like 2/3 of the country asks for (x) regulation, the govt starts making noises about regulating (x), a bunch of political ads come out to convince public (x) regulation is bad, contributions come from the (x) companies to the politicians regulating (x), business (x) is added to the commitee deciding rules for (x), regulation is watered down or outright defeated.

at almost no point in the process is the public will treated as anything other than a problem to solve.

Im not who you’re responding to but if the Rs are “regressive” and the Dems are not “progressive” but instead “status quo” couldn’t my opinion,

(CW: chinese bot alert! BoTh SiDeS vote suppression incoming!)

“neither party will help us move left” be pretty spot on? That is what everyone on the left wants, yeah? For the Overton Window to move left? We agree? Please tell me we agree on this much.

If we do, how is such leftward movement even possible in the current political climate, with the DNC so hostile to the leftists already in its tent and openly courting ‘left-leaning’ Republicans? They are currently campaigning with right-wing rhetoric like a “lethal fighting force” and a “strong border wall”. Is the way to fight conservatism getting conservatives to join you? I guess I’m too stupid to see how that could work.

I’m not saying Harris needs to make Roe v Wade’s return the number one cause of her campaign, but it and other leftist causes should be talked about waaay more than they have, don’t you think? I do anyway.

Assuming i still have your ear and we agree the DNC is moving right politically, what can a Democratic voter do to slow or stop this rightward trend?

Here’s where you expect me to tell you to vote 3rd party or some other useless shit but naw, the answer is "i dont know and it’s driving me bonkers thinking about how it must. "

To be abundantly clear, please do vote for Harris. I am absolutely serious. I want her to win.

Honestly, my secret fantasy has the Democrats winning a supermajority in all parts of the country and, without the republican bugaboo to point at and blame are either forced to come through on some long-term platform promises to leftists, or the voters are finally forced to see the Democratic Party for who they really are and finally form a party that represents them because it is them.

Or the Dems prove me full of shit and it really was the darn ol’ Rs all along! What a blow to my ego that would be hahaha! I’d still take that L happily tho.

You’re not gonna get many linux users respecting your opinion on tech if youre such an outlier. Windows 7? Cmon, ya gotta expect to get pushback on this right? Not just Linux nerds either… like Who do you tell this bombshell to and they’re like “yeah ok that’s normal?”

The order would establish a task force to coordinate policy development with the goal of ensuring more benefits for workers

This is as much info as i could find in the article. Looks like there’s no clear rules on how the money will be divided up, this will be done soon. My worry is here:

federal grants that would prioritize projects with labor agreements-

That “prioritizes” is a big, big modifier, allowing for the task force to allow at least some money from that grant to go to projects that don’t have labor agreements. Who is on that task force will be very important apparently.