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    If you refuse to vote for Democrats because they don’t perfectly align with your progressive ideals, this is what you get - potentially decades of work implementing environmental, anticorruption, and social justice rolled back by a court that has been stacked with extreme right wingers to legislate from the bench for unpopular outcomes.

    There is one viable party that both implements more progressive policies and names judges that will uphold them - do not throw your vote away.

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      I realized a long time ago that one of the fundamental flaws in our three tiered government system is that there is no check and balance on the supreme Court.

      If i, a not very bright person, can figure out that there is a gaping flaw in a system that is ripe for exploitation, then it makes sense that other people did as well.

      What we need is an addendum to the system to put a check on the supreme Court. A path by which should the supreme Court enact a law that is widely decryed as not being in tune with the American sense of justice that we can overrule them and possibly disbar them from a lifetime appointment on basis of judging to their own selfish interest rather than the interest of the American soul.

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        For further clarification, my ideal system would be that should the house choose to impeach a supreme Court Justice and then the supporting of their impeachment would be brought to popular vote by the American people.

        Sure that’s a little clumsy, but it allows for not just political motivation to rule the Day when it comes to correcting our supreme Court and checking their power.

        Quick edit, I would probably also make this a required vote at every congress. At least once a year the house has to vote whether or not to keep the current justices in power or to turn their Fates over to the American people.

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      Democrats don’t align at all not perfectly, not imperfectly, not just a little but zero

      a right leaning conservative religious Catholic with a prosecutor as vice does not align at all with progressive ideas

      how the fuck is Biden and Harris progressive?

      he sat back and asked for more donations while roe v wade fell

      does nobody remember him bitching he did not want his kids on the bus with certain other people

      what about the crime bills

      what about the recent right leaning immigration policies

      not being Trump is not progressive

      https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/biden-promise-tracker/?ruling=true

      nothing accomplished and Trump’s did not fare any better

      https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/trumpometer/

      The kind of blind support Trump and Biden have is how the US got to where it is today

      football politics with nothing more needed than a “D” or an “R” and pick a color “Red” or “Blue” and blindly shout how your team is better than that piece of shit other party that constantly tries to make sure your team loses

      too bad this election is already a lost

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        It’s not blind support and you’re being disingenuous by calling it that. What’s being said is that, of the TWO choices we have at this point, Trump is absolutely the worse pick for any sort of progressive agenda. To go with the bus analogy, do you want to get on the bus that might head one block in the right direction when your destination is the next town over, or do you want to get on the bus going miles in the complete opposite direction? And keep in mind, you HAVE to get on one or the other bus.

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        So what are you going to do? Sit out? Republicans winning pulls the Democrats further to the right - since the majority of the votes went to the right; it doesn’t make them think “by golly, most of the nation is to the left of us!”. The most progressive viable party receiving an unquestionable mandate from voters would pull them towards a more progressive position.

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          not allowed to vote thanks to politicians like Biden so guess just have to walk to the next town myself

          and the only bus drivers people are screaming they want in the driver’s seat have reached the age their licenses should be suspended so might be safer walking anyway

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      As a Utahn, it pisses me off that we still have fucking coal plants here. We have 200-250 days of sun here. Shit, we’re at 4-5000 feet of elevation, so the solar flux is fucking intense. Why the fuck haven’t we built solar panels and shut these plants down? Why aren’t our reservoirs covered in at least some number of panels to cut the evaporation? Rather than fix that, let’s scum up the air for us and our neighbors with our shitty 1900s era coal plants and our fucking oil refineries that help contribute to some of the worst air quality in North America when an inversion hits Salt Lake City.

      I have nothing but contempt for the basket of cunts our gerrymandered districts keep shitting out. It’s amazing how ugly the politics can be in such a beautiful place.

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        Utah has some of my favorite places earth. It’s almost painful how beautiful it can be. It really is a shame what the government there does.

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        gerrymandered districts

        The entire state elects Republicans because they want to. There are no gerrymandered districts. You voted for Donald Trump by 20% in 2020. All your Senators and US Representatives are Republican.

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          As others have said, Utah is, in fact, heavily gerrymandered. We even had a ballot initiative that passed in 2018 demanding that the legislature draw more fair maps. Rather than do that, the shitfucks at the capitol came up with maps that were somehow even worse. Like, we have some real idiots in this state who want to be abused by fascists for some reason. I’m also an idiot, but I am firmly progressive and do not want to suck on a fascist’s boot, and I’m not alone. Utah may be red, but Salt Lake City is very, very blue.

          This article does a pretty good job of discussing how fucked the situation here is: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/11/us/redistricting-map-utah-salt-lake-city.html

          Here’s an archive link if you hit a paywall: https://archive.ph/4scLB

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          Attacking someone personally over the dominant politics of the state the live plays perfectly into the hands of the conservative agenda. Keeps those leftys fighting each other while conservatives push their agenda on all of us with the coordination of unified force.

          And by your own statement you are incorrect: if the state legislature and the federal representatives are overwhelmingly Republican, they already gerrymandered the whole state.

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    I wonder how much of a gratuity the Republican justices are going to get for this ruling.

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      We should be rioting protesting for that. Tell me the days and I’ll be in DC. I can also help plan.

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        Not sure anything like that is put together, but a good start is to call your rep and senators and ask them to close the various loopholes that the courts have put in US bribery law, both the after-the-fact-gratuity one and the explicit (instead of implicit) quid-pro-quo one.

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    In a matter of hours scotus has has legalized bribery, promoted pollution, and fucked everyone. All because of Republican appointed judges. Next time anyone tells you both sides are the same, do tell them to go fuck themselves.

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    Colorado needs to tax the shit out of everything coming from and going to Utah, everyone should. Fuck it, tax the Mormon churches to make up for their theologically driven state of pollution.

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    Coney Barrett has actually had a couple moments this years where she has popped out of the conservative dogma bubble. I wonder if the other women on the court can pull her out of the echo chamber.

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    Yes, Congress explicitly empowered you to do this, and yes you may be protecting citizens rights to not have corporations cover them with harmful, painful pollution… but it might eat into the profits of some of our bribery-patrons, so we’ve decided that we are going to supersede Congress’s authority on this. We’ll figure out our weasely reasoning later.

    • SCOTUS, a Constitutionally illegitimate terrorist organization
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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    The rule is intended to restrict smokestack emissions from power plants and other industrial sources that burden downwind areas with smog-causing pollution.

    The Supreme Court, with a 6-3 conservative majority, has increasingly reined in the powers of federal agencies, including the EPA, in recent years.

    The court is currently weighing whether to overturn its 40-year-old Chevron decision, which has been the basis for upholding a wide range of regulations on public health, workplace safety and consumer protections.

    Three energy-producing states — Ohio, Indiana and West Virginia — have challenged the air pollution rule, along with the steel industry and other groups, calling it costly and ineffective.

    Those states are Alabama, Arkansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Nevada, Oklahoma, Texas, Utah and West Virginia.

    Ground-level ozone, which forms when industrial pollutants chemically react in the presence of sunlight, can cause respiratory problems, including asthma and chronic bronchitis.


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