• recentSloth43@lemmy.world
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    4 hours ago

    Saudi Arabia isn’t a person. I hate it when news titles aren’t specific enough. Is it the government that bought them? A private company? Just a dude that happens to be Saudi? The implications can change drastically based on who bought it.

    Also the article link isn’t working for me so all i got is the title. And as most people that’d see it, they’d also only read the title, this type of simplification can lead to a lot of misinformation. Or worse, racism, as you combine a whole country and its people to one entity which is dehumanizing. I’m speaking from experience as a Saudi person who’s always grouped with the “saudi” or "Arabic " or “brown” groups instead of another human being.

    In short, news should stop generalizing and be more specific, especially in the titles, the part that most people will interact with.

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      3 hours ago

      Saudi Arabia isn’t a person.

      Yes, it is. In an autocratic monarchy, in a dictatorship, everything belongs to the king. The house of Saud is treating the country as their personal property and let’s not pretend that anything would prevent the guy who killed a journalist in his embassy from accessing that data.

    • fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.comOP
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      4 hours ago

      unpaywalled: https://archive.is/7yc9S

      A Saudi Arabian company that was created by the Saudi Arabian government just purchased Pokémon Go

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Investment_Fund

      If you can’t see the article i will paste it for you.

      I’m speaking from experience as a Saudi person who’s always grouped with the “saudi” or "Arabic " or “brown” groups instead of another human being.

      So am i, and i’m also sick of it and the people who use this to fuel discrimination. I see this article as more of a reason to hate the sauds, not saudi people.

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        3 hours ago

        Anyone that groups individuals with their government is a bigot advertising their bigotry.

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          1 hour ago

          there are cases where this is more or less true. I think the less democratic/representative and more oppressive a government, the less fair it is to group a people with their regime. the saudis have an absolute monarchy that bone-saws journalists in foreign countries.

          which probably fucks up their culture something awful, but not in the same ways their government is monstrous.

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            48 minutes ago

            I guess I’m pretty suspicious of all states and the control they exert over the average person to use that metric. It’s my opinion that if democracy worked, it’d be illegal (or subverted by a CIA-backed coup).

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              42 minutes ago

              well, yes. I don’t think a government can completely align with the values of the people it dominates, they are inherently shitty, but shittiness is a spectrum.

              and yes, that is what the CIA is for. that, and cocaine trafficking.

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      3 hours ago

      I mean, if it’s in Saudi Arabia you know the royal family is in full control, so in this it kind of makes sense