Im not a manager but im just struggling to see how you habe such a narrow view of work that you think its that linear. Most roles do require inter team and department cooperation and in those cases it’s nice to be able to check teams and see if someone’s in the office because then you can go talk to them directly.
Why is knowing if someone is wfh or in office such a bad thing to you? Also where someone is is not irrelevant there are plenty of restrictions around work locations.
Yo, I was hoping to chat about fizzing buzzes today. You in the office; wanna grab coffee? If you prefer you can call or we can just chat on slack? Anyway I thought it would be best if we foo’d the bars in that order on project A.
Easy. No naked ping. No pressure. Question already in the open. No expectations. Will find out if able to meet in person. Will get an initial response.
No shit that is what is already done every day. Its not meaningfully different from this change other than being slower. You give up nothing by the way there is no privacy argument to be had you’re using Microsoft teams in a work environment.
Why do we have a little dot next to the users name that way people can see if they’re online, offline, away or busy? You can just message them and ask.
Because you don’t message them generally if they’re away; so away and busy marking helps. The difference you’re describing for not needing to check if somebody is in the office, means you are the sort of person to just show up at somebody’s desk and yap. If not, this new feature gains you no ground, as you’d still need to check if they’re available. If so, you’re already quite unlikable in the workplace.
Its funny seeing the responses on this website where everyone is twisting themselves into pretzels trying to justify why its useless or so bad it shouldnt be implemented and elsewhere the response is cool that sounds useful
I dont know what to tell you, people talk in offices, I’m sorry thats so upsetting to you. Human beings like to talk for work and for social reasons. You can disable the feature and cry when someone vists your cubicle but you can’t deny it will be useful.
For some people maybe this is true but for most it isnt. There are more people where this approach is useful vs not. The feature makes sense and is useful.
There it is. I was right. “Talk to them directly”. That demonstrates a huge problem in your work environment.
This is how side decisions get made. This is how things skip getting written down. This is how you break protocols, and risk other people wasting time to do some properly because you just took it up with someone. It kills asymmetric work. It make growth difficult as your office expands to other countries and offices. Documentation gets worse, responsibilities get worse.
No not really it doesnt necessarily lead to any of that. Communication is human to human in many businesses around the world and it will be that way for many more years. Asking if someone is working from home and waiting for a reply is a pointless waste of time. This will be a welcome change for everyone except developers.
Im not a manager but im just struggling to see how you habe such a narrow view of work that you think its that linear. Most roles do require inter team and department cooperation and in those cases it’s nice to be able to check teams and see if someone’s in the office because then you can go talk to them directly.
Why is knowing if someone is wfh or in office such a bad thing to you? Also where someone is is not irrelevant there are plenty of restrictions around work locations.
Easy. No naked ping. No pressure. Question already in the open. No expectations. Will find out if able to meet in person. Will get an initial response.
No shit that is what is already done every day. Its not meaningfully different from this change other than being slower. You give up nothing by the way there is no privacy argument to be had you’re using Microsoft teams in a work environment.
Why do we have a little dot next to the users name that way people can see if they’re online, offline, away or busy? You can just message them and ask.
Because you don’t message them generally if they’re away; so away and busy marking helps. The difference you’re describing for not needing to check if somebody is in the office, means you are the sort of person to just show up at somebody’s desk and yap. If not, this new feature gains you no ground, as you’d still need to check if they’re available. If so, you’re already quite unlikable in the workplace.
Its funny seeing the responses on this website where everyone is twisting themselves into pretzels trying to justify why its useless or so bad it shouldnt be implemented and elsewhere the response is cool that sounds useful
I dont know what to tell you, people talk in offices, I’m sorry thats so upsetting to you. Human beings like to talk for work and for social reasons. You can disable the feature and cry when someone vists your cubicle but you can’t deny it will be useful.
I can deny it will be useful to me. And I can do so without any disparaging comments. I am glad it will be useful for you.
The fuck you do. You send them a message asking if they’re in the office, and if you can come distract them for a minute about NNN.
Don’t be the asshole who breaks people’s concentration because your question is more important for you than their work
For some people maybe this is true but for most it isnt. There are more people where this approach is useful vs not. The feature makes sense and is useful.
There it is. I was right. “Talk to them directly”. That demonstrates a huge problem in your work environment.
This is how side decisions get made. This is how things skip getting written down. This is how you break protocols, and risk other people wasting time to do some properly because you just took it up with someone. It kills asymmetric work. It make growth difficult as your office expands to other countries and offices. Documentation gets worse, responsibilities get worse.
This is what ruins work from home.
No not really it doesnt necessarily lead to any of that. Communication is human to human in many businesses around the world and it will be that way for many more years. Asking if someone is working from home and waiting for a reply is a pointless waste of time. This will be a welcome change for everyone except developers.
Yes it is a waste of time to ask if someone is working from home.
Because it shouldn’t matter.
If you have to ask that question, your company is doing work from home wrong.