• Socialist Mormon Satanist@lemmy.worldOP
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    You call it tilting at windmills, but I call it fighting for real change—if these parties weren’t a threat to the status quo, they wouldn’t be so furious about their presence on the ballot!

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      they are not a threat to the status quo, they only spread their loser status around. Then guess which party is making policy?

      It baffles me that you see voting for them as “fighting for real change”.

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        Because he or she doesn’t really see it that way. If these parties really wanted real change, they would be fighting for local and state elections that they could actually win, and enact change from the bottom. They would not be aiming for the presidency which they literally cannot win. The only possible real world effect of their candidacies is to tilt the American elections to the fascists and allow them to take over the USA which result in, among other horrors, the genocide of the Palestinian people that this poster claims to support.

        By the way, the individual you are responding to has spent that last month or so, since their account was created, posting and commenting thousands of times in support of third party candidates - about once every twelve minutes or so. Their commitment is really quite… breathtaking. In that time they have been engaged with by many posters, including myself, who have explained it all to them quite clearly. They either simply refuse to believe it or are incapable of understanding. Make of all that what you will.

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          If these parties really wanted real change, they would be fighting for local and state elections that they could actually win, and enact change from the bottom.

          State-Level Green Party Officials (Former)

          • Shane Robinson - Maryland, House, District 39 (2011-2019)
          • Henry Bear - Maine, House, District 144 (2013-2019)
          • Ralph Chapman - Maine, House, District 133 (2010-2019)
          • Fred Smith - Arkansas, House, District 50 (2011-2015)
          • Richard Carroll - Arkansas, House, District 39 (2009-2011)
          • John Eder - Maine, House, District 118 (2003-2007)
          • Matt Ahearn - New Jersey, General Assembly, District 38 (2002-2004)
          • Audie Bock - California, State Assembly, District 16 (1999-2000)

          Current Green Party Mayors

          • Peter Schwartzman - Galesburg, Illinois (2021-2025)
          • Bruce Delgado - Marina, California (2008-2024)
          • Emmanuel Estrada - Baldwin Park, California (2020-2024)

          Former Green Party Mayors

          • John Reed - Fairfax, California
          • Mike Feinstein - Santa Monica, California
          • David Doonan - Greenwich, New York
          • Kelley Wearvering - Cordova, Alaska
          • Robb Davis - Davis, California
          • Peter Gleichman - Ward, Colorado
          • Jim Sullivan - Victory, New York
          • Jason West - New Paltz, New York

          Current Green Party City & County Council Members

          • Sylvia R. Chavez - Calipatria, California
          • David Conley - Douglas County, Wisconsin
          • Josiah Dean - Dufur, Oregon
          • Becky Elder - Manitou Springs, Colorado
          • Bob Gifford - Portage County, Wisconsin
          • Renée Goddard - Fairfax, California
          • David Grover - Trinidad, California
          • Damon Jespersen - Newbury, Massachusetts
          • John Keener - Pacifica, California
          • Rebecca Kemble - Madison, Wisconsin
          • Paul Pitino - Arcata, California
          • Marsha A. Rummel - Madison, Wisconsin
          • George P. Steeves - Southbridge, Massachusetts
          • Anna Trevorrow - Portland, Maine
          • Daniel Welsh - Lewisboro, New York
          • Heidi Weigleitner - Dane County, Wisconsin
          • Stephen Zollman - Sebastopol, California

          Former Green Party City & County Council Members

          • Peter Schwartzman - Galesburg, Illinois
          • George Altgelt - Laredo, Texas
          • Michael Beilstein - Corvallis, Oregon
          • Bruce Delgado - Marina, California
          • Jessica Bradshaw - Carbondale, Illinois
          • Michael Cornell - River Hill Village
          • Jennifer Dotson - Ithaca, New York
          • Kathleen Fitzpatrick - Mosier, Oregon
          • Gail Garrett - Mount Washington, Massachusetts
          • Matt Gonzalez - San Francisco, California
          • Cam Gordon - Minneapolis, Minnesota
          • Art Goodtimes - San Miguel County, Colorado
          • Daniel Hamburg - Mendocino County, California
          • Michelle Haynes - Norwood, Colorado
          • Gary Hull - Sharpsburg, Maryland
          • Tanya Ishikawa - Federal Heights, Colorado
          • Brian Kehoe - Catskill, New York
          • Jason Kirkpatrick - Arcata, California
          • Mary Jo Long - Afton, New York
          • Tom Mair - Grand Traverse County, Michigan
          • Sarah Marsh - Fayetteville, Arkansas
          • Merrily Mazza - Lafayette, Colorado
          • Gayle McLaughlin - Richmond, California
          • Ross Mirkarimi - San Francisco, California
          • Leland Pan - Dane County, Wisconsin
          • Dona Spring - Berkeley, California
          • Chuck Turner - Boston, Massachusetts

          Other Green Party Local Officials (Current)

          • Michael Clary - Coos County, Oregon
          • Jennifer Baker - Napa Valley College, California
          • Matthew Clark - San Mateo County
          • Billy Gene Collins - Waterford, Connecticut
          • Carl D’Amato - Waterford, Connecticut
          • Daphne Dixon - Fairfield, Connecticut
          • Matt Donahue - Benton County, Oregon
          • Maureen Doyle - Southbridge, Massachusetts
          • Andrew Frascarelli - Waterford, Connecticut
          • Frank Gatti - Amherst, Massachusetts
          • Michael Paul Hansen - Humboldt County, California
          • Jane Jarlsberg - San Bernardino County, California
          • Joshua Steele Kelly - Waterford, Connecticut
          • Vincent O’Connor - Amherst, Massachusetts
          • Sharron Parra - Hyampom, California
          • Vahe Peroomian - Glendale Community College, California
          • John Powell - Montecito, California
          • Colleen Ann Reidy - Thompsonville, Connecticut
          • Rebecca Rotzler - New Paltz, New York
          • Leif Smith - Redding, Connecticut
          • Darcy Van Ness - Waterford, Connecticut
          • Baird Welch-Collins - Waterford, Connecticut
          • Randy Marx - Fair Oaks Water District, Sacramento County, California
          • Fred McCann - Portland Water District, Portland, Maine
          • Garrett Erven - Red Wing, Minnesota

          Other Green Party Local Officials (Former)

          • John Amarilios - New Canaan, Connecticut
          • Korie Blyveis - Newberg Township, Michigan
          • Hector Lopez - New Canaan, Connecticut
          • Kim O’Connor - Hillsborough County, Florida
          • Jill Stein - Lexington, Massachusetts
          • Raymond C. Meyer - Lucas County Health Center, Iowa
          • Amy Martenson - Napa Valley College, California
          • MK Merelice - Brookline, Massachusetts
          • Anna Trevorrow - Portland, Maine
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          Their commitment is really quite… breathtaking.

          Awww, thank you!

          In that time they have been engaged with by many posters, including myself, who have explained it all to them quite clearly. They either simply refuse to believe it or are incapable of understanding.

          OR… I just haven’t changed my mind, and I’m voting for who I want, as is my right. Just like you’re voting for who you want, and that’s your right too. :)

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        It baffles me that you see voting for them as “fighting for real change”.

        Whether it “baffles” you or not, I’m still not voting for your candidate.