• lennybird@lemmy.world
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    Nah, we can argue that the conservative AIPAC that has lobbied our government for decades and put both parties into a bind of blindly supporting zionism at the risk of otherwise being labeled antisemitic as being part of the root problem.

    There’s a reason both Bibi and AIPAC wanted Trump reelected, and logically, you’ve only exacerbated the suffering of Palestinians everywhere.

    Genocide (a) has a spectrum of severity and is not a boolean function, while (b) Palestine isn’t the only place an attempted Genocide is currently being carried out; Ukraine is another place — and it is abundantly clear that both Biden and Harris were better than the Putin-sympathizing puppet that is Trump. So now YOU are complicit with blood on your hands of WORSENING not one but TWO genocides.

    So I’m sorry but your logic still is not holding any amount of water.

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      Fascists flock together, hence why Biden went around Congress multiple times to deliver arms to Israel and sent troops without congressional approval to Israel.

      Aipac didn’t care who got it hence why they were one of the biggest donors to the Harris campaign.

      I’m sorry you got duped into being the bad guy.

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        Biden cannot unilaterally send aid to Israel without apportioned money being approved by Congress. You may have forgotten this was the stumbling block to getting aid to Ukraine in the first place that stalled for a year thanks to Republican obstructionists?

        Yes, AIPAC plays both sides. They still preferred Trump as president. Connect the dots as to why.

        I’ll just repeat what was obviously, desperately deflected:

        Genocide (a) has a spectrum of severity and is not a boolean function, while (b) Gaza isn’t the only place an attempted Genocide is currently being carried out; Ukraine is another place — and it is abundantly clear that both Biden and Harris were better than the Putin-sympathizing puppet that is Trump. So now YOU are complicit with blood on your hands of WORSENING not one but TWO genocides. So I’m sorry but your logic still is not holding any amount of water. Read again: If Biden is indirectly complicit in Palestinian Genocide, then so too are you for voluntarily making it worse in both Gaza, AND Ukraine.

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          9 hours ago

          …yet he did send aid without congressional approval, unilaterally. Please pay attention to politics if you’re going to have such strong opinions.

          As far as the thing I deflected I do not give a fuck about Ukraine period. It is a proxy war between the US and Russia, like Afghanistan was in the 1980s. We shouldn’t be arming them, because it will just end in Ukrainian born terrorists attacking the US in 20 years.

          It is also not on the same scale, to the point it is not worth mentioning. More Palestinians have gone missing than Ukrainians have died.

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            These do not change my points. I promise you that I pay closer attention than you and that is made all the more clear by one’s incapacity to uphold a cogent, logical counter-argument without myriad fallacies.

            do not give a fuck about Ukraine period.

            Ladies & gentlemen, bystanders reading — I rest my case. Your ignorance — and apathy — is not an excuse for exacerbating not one but two genocides. Complicity in genocide remains. How ironic that your own claims on Biden are now being put against you, isn’t it?

            It is also not on the same scale,

            Thank you for proving my point that genocides are not boolean and can indeed worsen. We’re learning, I see. Now if only the dots could be connected.

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            I do not give a fuck about Ukraine

            So you’re ok with genocide and are just posturing.

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              Fuck it, I’ll be banned. There is no evidence of genocide in Ukraine post war. There is however extensive evidence of genocide from Ukraine in crimes and donetsk. Erasing Russian culture from ethically and culturally Russian regions and forcing them to learn Ukrainian instead of their native Russian is genocide

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                LOL look how fast he pivoted to paying lip-service to Putin.

                Ukraine genocide? “Naw, Bucha didn’t happen. Mariupol Theather bombing didn’t happen; STEALING thousands of Ukrainian kids didn’t happen.” Those genocide charges by the Criminal Court (that so happens to have the same charges levied against Netanyahu) clearly have “no evidence”

                hahahahahahahahaha!

                Now who sounds like an Israeli apologist.

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                  I don’t give a shit about Putin. I don’t care about a capitalist nation attacking another capitalist nation over oil and one of them getting supported by the US because the mic needs forever war to continue existing.

                  But either both Ukraine and Russia are commiting genocide, or neither is. And the reality is neither is. We know what genocide looks like. Nothing even close to what’s happening in Gaza has ever happened in Russia or Ukraine… it’s not comparable using the same word.