• snownyte@kbin.social
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    6 months ago

    Bernie has massive balls here and he’s jewish himself. Call them like they are, Bernie! We should’ve had you in 2016 and 2020!

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    6 months ago

    Too late Bernie, we’ve seen you sit on the sidelines in silence like the rest of the DNC while Palestinians got slaughtered. His silence and refusal to call it out made him complicit.

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      6 months ago

      I thought about digging up the video of Bernie vigorously complaining about aid for Israel without any improvement in their behavior from the 1980s. But I feel like I’ve sent it to you before along with some others, the last time you raised this totally bizarre argument.

      But something even more fundamental occurred to me

      You’re saying that Bernie Sanders is in lock step with the DNC?

      Bernie Sanders?

      DNC?

      You, uh…

      Are you under the impression Bernie Sanders is a Democrat?

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      Let us be clear: The Palestinian people today are experiencing nothing less than a humanitarian disaster. Thousands are already dead, including many children, and more are wounded. Hundreds of thousands have been forced out of their homes. These people, deeply impoverished before this war, now lack food, water, fuel, shelter, medicine, and other basic necessities. Unbelievably, more than 400,000 Palestinians, driven from their homes, are now sheltering in densely crowded U.N.-run schools. Dozens of medical facilities have been damaged, and 35 U.N. aid workers have been killed. The aid trickling into Gaza is just a fraction of what is needed. In a few days, hospitals will run out of fuel, and ventilators and incubators will shut off. This is a desperate, desperate situation. I echo Secretary Blinken’s call for the immediate release of all hostages. He also called for the consideration of a humanitarian pause by all parties. To my mind, a pause is essential for the protection of civilians as required by the laws of war, as well as for the provision of robust supplies of food, water, and medical aid to address the growing humanitarian catastrophe.

      -Sanders, Oct 25th on the Senate floor

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        6 months ago

        I mean they did. Twice.

        Bernie isn’t a coward. If he see’s the writing on the wall, it might be time to be done being a Democrat.

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              To clarify here, I am an avid Bernie supported that drove hours from my small town to go to his rallies and me and my wife donated the max allowed every year he was running. Going back and reading my initial comment I can see where i may have come across on the other side here. Where I said “at least they can vilify Trump” I guess what I was referring to is the Democrats like to hang out in the center, if Trump gets elected he would pull everything to the right, and all the democrats get to just be slightly better than him. Trump lowers the bar and it is easy for them to keep playing the good guy while they keep fucking us. If Bernie was elected, he pulls everything to the left, the democrats become the bad guy, and the jig is up for them. Him running independent doesn’t work because the DNC has the money and pull, running as a dem doesn’t work because the DNC will never let it happen. i e . we are fucked.

              Trump is perfect for them, their overlords get tax breaks, and they get to easily float over the low ass bar that Trump sets for them.

              It sounds like we are on the same side, my ignorance is purely in my writing skills.

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                6 months ago

                Thank you for the clarification, I appreciate it.

                I spent some time thinking about this, and I’m interested in your take, because I agree with basically everything you say, and especially:

                i e . we are fucked.

                I truly don’t think Biden can win at this point. The way I see it, supporting Biden as a candidate, arguing that he’s the lessor of evils, that we just have support him to beat Trump; its not only supporting genocide, its basically committing to a failed strategy because you are too blind to see any other way.

                To make it short: I don’t think Biden is going to be the nominee. Not after this week. Not after they’ve been hiding him as much as they have. His cognitive decline is real, and his ludicrous position on Gaza is setting the stage for global conflict.

                I’m gonna say that after this week, Biden’s polling is going to dip into the thirties, and in 4-6 weeks he’ll be polling at 35-40%. He’s not going to change his position on Gaza and he can’t win the national election with his position on Gaza. The student protests have highlighted that point.

                Do you think Biden will be the nominee after his reaction to these student protests?

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          6 months ago

          Mentally, Bernie has it over both of them.

          Physically, he can’t do what’s involved in campaigning. I wish it weren’t true, but there you go.