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silence7@slrpnk.net to politics @lemmy.worldEnglish · 11 months ago

Here’s the Populist Climate Message Harris Should Embrace | The fossil fuel economy is a scam. Ending it will save people money.

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Here’s the Populist Climate Message Harris Should Embrace | The fossil fuel economy is a scam. Ending it will save people money.

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silence7@slrpnk.net to politics @lemmy.worldEnglish · 11 months ago
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The Climate Message Harris Should Embrace: Fossil Fuels Are a Scam
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Democrats seem to be struggling to identify a winning narrative on climate policy. Maybe they should try this one.

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    Everybody has advice. Most have never run for office, much less national office.

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    Hey I’m all for ending fossil fuels, but how is this possible when we are still mostly driving ICE vehicles that require gas? Simply removing the oil industry when the majority of drivers are still using oil seems impractical, and will just lead to very high gas prices. We should be spending more time developing and testing more alternative fuels and methods before just “shutting it down”. Promote more EV’s and things like that, for now. Eventually, we can have such low demand that the oil rigs can be shut down in due time without a market crunch.

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      I don’t think we have the convenience of a “smooth transition” We made hard pushes for phasing out oil and the industry and their political puppets block or slow things down to a crawl. Taking it slow as a policy is a great way to make sure nothing happens. Oil companies and auto makers would be pleased as punch if they could even roll back emission standards and green energy incentives.

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      “How can we turn of the 10,000 gallon per hour waterfall at my house when I still need to drink water?”

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      Via a managed phase-out.

      You can:

      • Stop making ICE vehicles.
      • Improve public transport
      • Encourage the manufacture of ebikes and electric cars.
      • Reduce oil extraction

      All at once.

      I’ll also note that the US is a huge oil exporter. As such, sharply reduced extraction would largely cause pain to the oil industry and overseas.

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        Mass transit uses hydrogen fuel cells in some cities, so this is feasible if we adopt hydrogen fuel cells nationwide

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        That’s fine, but completely screws over rural people. You would need subsidies or something if you live outside metro areas.

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          Much of rural life is already subsidized. No problems with that.

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