You’re the one claiming that Trump won because of a grassroots campaign without any evidence to support that.
Not what I said. I said that Trump ran a grassroots campaign (which is true and I even linked to an article about it), which I brought up to refute this statement of yours: “I don’t think Bernie would get any air time if he was just funded by grassroots donations.” I didn’t say being a grassroots campaign was the cause of his win, just that it clearly wasn’t an obstacle for him. Given that Trump was successful with a grassroots campaign, and that both Harris and Clinton heavily outspent him, there is no reason to believe that Bernie wouldn’t be able to succeed as well on a grassroots campaign with less funding.
So far, the only argument against this you’ve been able to present is that Russia has trolls and billionaires exist. While those are technically facts, they’re not data that contradict any of my points. Since you don’t seem to have any of that, I think we’re done here.
So far, the only argument against this you’ve been able to present is that Russia has trolls and billionaires exist.
The facts I stated did more than prove they exists. The facts I stated prove they influenced they outcome of the election.
Your claim was that if I can’t quantify the exact amount of votes that Russian bots and billionaires were able to influence, you get to claim Trumps wins were strictly because he had a grassroots campaign.
Right, so, TL;DR, no, you have no data that contradicts my point, but you will continue to insist that the fact that Russian bots and billionaires exist is proof. This is why your entire argument is vibes-based, not reality-based.
Not what I said. I said that Trump ran a grassroots campaign (which is true and I even linked to an article about it), which I brought up to refute this statement of yours: “I don’t think Bernie would get any air time if he was just funded by grassroots donations.” I didn’t say being a grassroots campaign was the cause of his win, just that it clearly wasn’t an obstacle for him. Given that Trump was successful with a grassroots campaign, and that both Harris and Clinton heavily outspent him, there is no reason to believe that Bernie wouldn’t be able to succeed as well on a grassroots campaign with less funding.
So far, the only argument against this you’ve been able to present is that Russia has trolls and billionaires exist. While those are technically facts, they’re not data that contradict any of my points. Since you don’t seem to have any of that, I think we’re done here.
The facts I stated did more than prove they exists. The facts I stated prove they influenced they outcome of the election.
Your claim was that if I can’t quantify the exact amount of votes that Russian bots and billionaires were able to influence, you get to claim Trumps wins were strictly because he had a grassroots campaign.
Right, so, TL;DR, no, you have no data that contradicts my point, but you will continue to insist that the fact that Russian bots and billionaires exist is proof. This is why your entire argument is vibes-based, not reality-based.
So you admit you don’t read posts that prove you wrong and just base your response on emotions and assumptions.