• CharlesDarwin@lemmy.worldOP
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    People under 65 with no underlying conditions aren’t eligible under the F.D.A. approval, even if they live with someone at high risk of severe illness.

    This “administration” is absolutely unhinged.

    They want to kill so very many people.

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      It’ll be framed as “freedom” and “protect children.” It’s not entirely wrong, in a way. It will certainly free many Americans from this mortal coil and protect children from a needle stick.

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      They want to kill so very many people.

      My bet is that this administration will poison the vaccine. It’d solve a lot of their problems. It’d exterminate their undesirables. It would lower the social security allocation. It would also make people distrust vaccines.

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        Vaccine efficacy depends on the number in the population who take the vaccine. I guess we learned really fuck all from 2020.

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          Also, a certain portion of this population has been trained that “herd immunity” is some kind of slur that “THEY” use against the sheeple because it has the word “herd” in it.

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          No. Vaccine efficacy is only relevant to the person taking the vaccine.

          Reduction in viral transmission depends on what the population does, but in the case of covid that was better controlled by masks than vaccination.

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        Covid is endemic in the US. The more people vaccinated, the less the virus will be able to mutate this fall. The less it mutates, the less lethal it will continue to become. By stopping the vaccinations, covid will spread faster and could become more dangerous as a result.

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          I don’t disagree.

          My point is that at risk individuals will remain at risk, regardless of the vaccinated status of people around them.

          Anyone assuming their covid^1 vaccine will protect others is putting them in danger.

          1^(other vaccines like measles and smallpox do protect others).

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            Then this changes nothing for them.

            … Their caregivers who go out into the world and then come back into their home now can’t get the vaccine, increasing the attack surface for the at risk persons.

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              Ok. Now we’ve hit on the misinformation I wanted to highlight.

              A caregiver taking the covid vaccine DOES NOT protect the at risk individuals. This myth is actually putting vulnerable people at risk.

              Vaccinated people can still become infected with the same potential virality (with fewer, milder symptoms and being infectious for less time).

              Wear an N95 mask around the vulnerable. Don’t rely on the covid vaccine for their protection.

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                I never said vaccination is a replacement for masking. That’s a begging the question logical fallacy on your part. Of course the caregiver should also be masking.

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                  I added the mask recommendation so that anyone reading this post knows what to do around people with vulnerable immune systems.

                  The vaccination status of the caregiver (or any visitor) is irrelevant. The at risk remain at risk.

                  The phrase “even if they live with someone at high risk of severe illness” is superfluous. Vaccination of others does not protect people at high risk of severe illness from Covid.

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    After reading the article, it should still be relatively easy to get one if pharmacies and doctors don’t play stupid. It seems like this move is meant to discourage people from even trying to get on or to cause hesitancy among providers in administering it.

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      I would hope so, but in either this article or some other, so far, CVS and Walgreens had not replied to request for comment. I think there is legitimate concern that doctors and pharmacies may cave to this administration because they fear retaliation.

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      Get lost. Getting a yearly booster isn’t an obsession, its good planning. We’ve been doing that for decades before Covid. Fuck off completely. Civilization is tired of your shit.

    • CharlesDarwin@lemmy.worldOP
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      WTH?

      “The world has moved on from COVID” 🤣

      Cases are spiking again. People still die from COVID. I’m sure everyone would love to “move on”, but…putting your head in the sand solves nothing.

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        Never said people can’t catch covid. Of course they do, but they’re not dying like the pandemic. It’s down to the flu. Time to move on.

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          Huh, seems I’ve heard this song before. People were saying “it’s the flu” since day one.

          If you don’t have anything useful to offer here, I suggest you refrain…

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            Or, “it’s ok, it’s endemic now”, or, “it’s ok, it’s just seasonal”. Nothing was learned from 2020 onward.

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              If anything, there’s been a severe regression by some of the population. It’s a real face palm. I mean, I still see anti-Fauci stickers on cars.

              I mean…on the one hand, I tune in a lot to futurist/transhumanist types of things and get inspired by one segment of humanity, but then daily I’m immersed in things that just make me wonder what the hell the human species is even up to…

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            You keep misrepresenting what I’m saying. When I said it’s down to the flu I meant since the vaccines became available.

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              Ever since vaccines became available, covid is like the flu, and the flu is only the flu because it also has a vaccine available, so don’t bother getting the covid vaccine which has been instrumental in getting covid under control? Is that your position? Let covid go back to doing what it did to populations before vaccines by not getting the vaccines?

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          Which is still the dumbest fucking thing in the world because it’s objectively wrong and everyone in this conversation is aware of it.

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      It’s been a century since the Spanish Flu, yet we still vaccinate for it. We will never “move on” from COVID any more than we did for the Flu.

      If you want to challenge Big Pharma, there are better ways than spouting bullshit.