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    Oh no, fascists won the election! Oh no, Musk is a fascist! We need to leave X! Where should we go? Mastodon? Too complicated! BS, which is financed by fascists? Count me in! 😭

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    I’ve started removing trash sites. I blocked twatter and reddit at my router.

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    Ha ha ha, yeah, sure. Bluesky won’t defeat xitter, at best it’ll just be the “next thing” once xitter finally finishes getting rid of most of its users, which I guess will take more than 4 years from now.

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        I guess they don’t consider it bluesky defeating twitter if twitter is commiting suicide. Sounds like pedantry to me.

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            The key factor in Digg’s demise was a flawed design that was too easily abused by users. Digg had no controls over user verification, so individuals could game the system by creating multiple accounts to artificially inflate the number of votes for their own content. Because Digg displayed content in order of popularity, most visitors saw and voted only on content that was already popular. This system created a vicious cycle in which a small number of dedicated users could push their own content to the front page and thereby gain more followers, allowing them to more easily repeat the process. As Digg grew, so too did its problems related to power-hungry users cheating and gaining undue influence over content.

            Sounds like the same problem that every centralized social media ecosystem suffers from. The big difference between Digg and Reddit was that Reddit successfully monetized the “push me to the front of the queue” algorithm rather than engineering around it.

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      The great thing about BlueSky is how under-the-radar its flown for the last few years. Virtually no advertising. No legions of bot accounts spamming with invites and generic attention baiting posts. No |>u33y N |3io blowing up my mentions. No enshittification, because its just a primitive clone of the original Bird Site.

      The more popular it gets, the less likely that’ll last. BlueSky won’t defeat Twitter until it becomes Twitter.

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    Why people cannot see that the core problem of twitter is not that it got bought by the asshole billionaire. It’s that the asshole billionaire was able to buy it.

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      Wasn’t he forced to do so after trying to back out, or am I either imagining that or thinking of someone else?

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        If I recall correctly he could have backed out but he would have had to pay I think 1billion as a penalty and worse admit things didnt go his way

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          300 Billion dollar portfolio, 34 Billion dollar loss (~22 Billion after he writes it off in “taxes”) and he has his own right-wing media company chocked full of nutters.

          I don’t think he cares much about the individual Billions much these days. Half his Tesla stock is securing his debt.

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    I wonder if the next president could do something to stop that… seems like the head of DOGE might like it (or not, if that means contrarians disappear and stop “community noting” his posts, and allow for a more echoey chamber)

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      Mastodon is more of a protocol than a single service. It succeeds/fails on those terms, in the same way the old Web1.0 protocols did. Which is to say, you can’t enshitify a thousand micro-sites at once like you can enshittify one big site that’s under central control. But you also can’t do things like navigate, search, and socialize efficiently.

      Mastodon is successful in large part because it isn’t. When you let a single cartel of corporate psychos run a Mastodon account like they would a Twitter or Facebook, you end up with Truth Social (literally just a Mastodon branch instance).

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      There was a good explanation about why not mastodon the other day. It basically boils down to Bluesky is just an easier transition.

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      What’s the difference, really? Aren’t they both decentralized microblogging social networks?

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        One is a product with investors selling itself on promises of decentralization (bluesky), the other is a genuine community tool (mastodon) that actually provides decentralization.

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    Let’s replace one proprietary service with another. It looks so good with its API wide open, like it’s never getting enshittified.

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      It’s obvious to me that we need to have laws to enforce portability of data and interoperability for large platforms.

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          I mean, this is one of the central pitches behind Web3.0/Crypto. Everything has a digital tag and its all going to be portable between platforms.

          Did it come to fruition? No, of course not. Its all a pile of scams. But then so was Web2.0 and Web1.0 during their heydays.

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    It needs A) same functionality B) ban all forms of racism, especially Zionism and C) refuse investment from undemocratic nations like GCC or China

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      That’s not going to happen here. Am I the only one who watched Trumps speech claiming to be about 1A? He is coming for social media day 1, to reinforce Elon Musk, not only on Twitter, but all other large social media platforms (he doesn’t name FB and Reddit, but he’s talking about FB and Reddit, maybe as far down as Lemmy, BlueSky & Mastadon too, idk).

      He says he’s going to mobilize “my Department of Justice” to do it.

      He specifically says: making account removal/banning only possible via court order, removing moderation, and removing any labels of misinformation or disinformation.

      He’s already threatening YouTube with removal of section 230, if they moderate content.

      Why is no one talking about this?

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        What’s with the consistent amount of “American Democracy is dead” rhetoric I’ve been seeing lately? It’s not like Trump is president yet. And sure, Biden isn’t going to make too much impact as a lame duck, but even after Trump takes office again, there’s a lot he can do, and a whole lot more he won’t be able to. The power is still in the hands of the people, especially at the local level. America’s democracy isn’t dead, and saying anything of the sort is obeying in advance.

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          Oh you sweet summer child.

          A key component of 2016-2020 was Trump was surrounded by people who wouldn’t, including generals who wouldn’t entertain his talk of maybe using nukes. It’s not that he couldn’t in 2016-2020, it’s that he was surrounded by people who wouldn’t and he didn’t know how himself.

          That’s no longer the case. And the people around him have studied up on how.

          One of his first big speeches post win this week, claiming to be about defending 1A, he states he’s going to use/mobilize “my Department of Justice” to prosecute anyone trying to enforce the Hatch Act. The Hatch Act is the thing that keeps polling locations safe and neutral. The Hatch Act prevents the threatening of voters in or within 100yds of polling locations, as well as making the buying of votes illegal. That latter part keeps voting free.

          Think about the possibilities. Think hard. In fact, if you’re a creative type, sit down and write a short story about what that could look like on the present political climate.

          He’s reading a script, the entire speech lacks his usual meandering bullshit. It’s cagey. He totally didn’t write it. The only piece that smells like trump is the piece about no longer being able to ban social media accounts without a court order, probably because that’s personal for him.

          And remember. SCOTUS basically said he can do anything while President without fear of prosecution. It’s simply that Biden is unwilling to go there that we haven’t seen what that looks like yet.

          I don’t read hard left media for this info. I listen to direct talk, from Trump, from his people, and listen to/read interviews with individuals in or very close to the 2016-2020 term. I then find a historian or lawyer who can add nuance. I then read the hive mind of We The People and other countries for more perspective.

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          Have you seen Project 2025, Trump’s unofficial but kind of official election plan? Republicans have all three branches of government now. They would have to willingly choose to not follow their own proposed plan, and there’s no reason to do that. So, logically, they will execute it - and that’s it. The end of US democracy.

          Go read it or summaries of it if you think it’s hyperbole.

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            It’s not a bullet list or headline so they’re going to continue to ignore all 996 pages of it.

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          Yea, have you heard about project 2025?

          With choosing trump, the American people have chosen that they approve that project.

          At least, so do I see it.

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          If you tell people now that Democracy is dead, they don’t bother fighting the real fight, if and when push comes to shove.

          Dems said this election is the end of Democracy, but still put an uninspiring right candidate. They said Trump is the fascist danger to all the US stands for. But having him and his crownies dismantled by getting criminal charges on them seemed to go too far. When grassroots movements came up and demanded change instead of embracing them, taking them seriously and talking with them properly, they were shunned and pushed down.

          Now the greatest danger to corporate America are people to start organizing and taking to the streets. So hammer down the defeatist message, so the people suck up to their corporate overlords. The corporate overlords who won yet another election as both candidates represented their class interests.

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            All you are describing really only suggests that American democracy has been dead for even longer, not that it isn’t dead yet.

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            I just don’t see how that broken down old man who says they’re eating the cats and dogs is inspiring to anyone. But then I don’t vote on inertia.

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      yeah I don’t think a usa based platform is really “long gaming” the fee speech problem. Bluesky now shifting to monetization plans. Its a matter of time until some rich dildo buys it up. If were lucky it will be mark cuban or somebody buts its still grim prospects.

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        Cuban has deleted much of his anti trump talk, high odds the man is hunkering down.

        Remember, trumps been promising vengeance to “enemies” for well over a year now, and now he has immunity from prosecution.

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        “Fee speech” is a serendipitous typo. Or maybe you meant it. First I’ve heard it, anyway.

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    Countdown until it turns out that everybody associated with any competition to Musk’s companies just so happens to be a criminal Trump siccs his DOJ after: 5… 4…

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      I wouldn’t discount the possibility that bsky is backed by the same dark money pool that bought twitter. putin found that it’s way too easy to buy elections worldwide just using social media. They’ll never give it up.

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    Bummer that isn’t mastodon but any inconvenience to musk is appreciated

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      I say this as someone who likes fediverse microblogging (Mastodon, MissKey, etc) it will never be Mastodon. Mastodon and its maintainers are staunchly against all the things that would make it a viable replacement to Twitter.

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          They don’t like algorithms. They want you to select which content you see.

          That’s all I’ve got. Mastodon is a better, more open tech. And it’s pretty easy to get set up, relatively. It’s insane that companies haven’t jumped on it.

          You don’t even have to quit Twitter. You can just post to more than one place and give people the option.

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            Threads (for better or worse) demonstrates that that’s not a fundamental obstacle for fediverse microblogging.

            If someone wanted to launch a Mastodon fork with algorithm-driven content discovery, they could do. Just as with Lemmy/kbin/mbin, the beauty of the fediverse is that different servers can take quite different approaches to use experience design whilst still maintaining compatibility with the rest of the community.

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            This is what happens when someone can’t put themselves into their user’s shoes and then wonder why a product isn’t doing as well as it is.

            They proclaim the product is great, it’s everyone else that’s the problem

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      Actually not a bummer in my opinion, let people sort into different platforms based on their interests like we used to do with forums.

      A fragmented internet is a better internet

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        that’s not how the modern internet works and unfortunately i am forced to be on facebook because all 4 hobbies no longer exists outside of it.

        if people moved to the fediverse instead of bluesky or such, then we’d actually be able to have a fragmented internet again - due to how the fediverse interconnects through federation.

        which i think is the best selling point the fediverse have - no longer would users need to be on multiple services, they could just be on one, and still interact with the services across the fediverse. but unless there is a mass-migration of one single service to the fediverse, such as people choosing mastodon over bluesky, to be the dominant service - it’s just never going to happen.

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        I somewhat agree, but it’s not going to happen. If Bluesky wins this battle, they’re just going to be the dominant platform. It’s not going to spread out. It’s just going to migrate. A federated alternative would at least be spread out by design, though connected still.

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        But it’s not fragmented. Mastodon is still the odd “vegan” option while BlueSky is becoming the main Twitterlike platform. Mastodon is still coming out the other end mostly the same.

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          Yeah, and that’s a good thing specially for the reason I just mentioned

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    I just hope federal services (like applying for a passport) don’t become Twitter-only after Trump appoints Elon as Secretary of Enshittification.

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      I’ve made a huge mistake breaking my personal rule to avoid all political content and I’ve regretted that immediately

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        It’s more than 4 years. We just crawled out of Trump inflation and now are going right back in.

        Dismantling and breaking is easy. They can do a lot of that in 4 yrs. Building takes decades.

        There’s also a global effect. Would Putin have ever attacked Ukraine without a Trump term? How about Israel’s taking self defense into genocide territory?

        America leads by example and the last example was an impulsive 3 yo with a giant military force and a dead diplomacy department in the executive branch. There’s permissiveness in that.

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        Thing is, mate…fascists rarely stay inside their boarders. This is going to be the whole world’s problem in about 3 months.

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        4 years if laws and constitution stay the same and are followed… first term he had people alienated into him who were at least slightly appropriated for their positions, this time people who has nothing to do with their positions are being appointed simply for being loyal to him… Let’s see if any of them won’t let him do anything drastic within 4 YEARS

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        Nah, most people are going to live their lives and see absolutely no effect from anything done. No single administration has the ability to totally fuck up the country in the amount of time they have. That’s why you get the big swings back and forth between the two parties. Also, the news is very good at sensationalizing absolutely everything and making you think that, oh my god, it’s the end of the fucking world. What are we going to do? Run around like chickens screaming with our heads cut off and shit.

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          No single administration has the ability to totally fuck up the country in the amount of time they have.

          Trump: “Hold my Diet Coke”.

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          We know that Ukraine will be betrayed by the Trump government. A Russian victory will embolden Russia to further threaten Europe. This will also embolden China and other authoritarian states.

          We also know a Trump government will stop climate action. Unfortunately, this will also signal to many other governments that they can do the same.

          We also know that immense cruelties will be perpetrated such as the family separation policy of the 1st Trump presidency

          But yes, if you are white, straight and middle class or rich, you’ll be able to think all is OK until such time as the authoritarian ascendancy led by China and Russia affects your own life, which might be a decade or more away.

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            How many people do you think would be affected by his deportation policies? I’ve heard a number of around 10 million, and that’s 3% of the population, which, while absolutely terrible, means that the other 97% isn’t going to really care.

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              Food prices will go up, not down. I think everyone cares about food prices right now.

              I’m not just talking about outdoor crop picking work. A friend was laid off from a food production company this week and Trumps not even sworn in yet. You can’t make this stuff up it’s so ridiculous. So, anticipate job losses for non immigrants as well.

              2/3 of the factory line is Hispanic, and the majority of that is rotating work visa people. In this way, you can pay much lower wages.

              Part of it was tariff threat, no one would place orders, everyone’s on hold on the production/supply/buyer chain, waiting for January, so the income of the business dropped to zero this week and is projected to stay there through January. Again, this is food production, not bread or flour, or anything basic like that, but it’s still food.

              So, with no income and the threat of loss of cheap production labor, all the American citizens were laid off this week. Whether or not the business will eventually declare bankruptcy is undecided, but that talk is definitely on the table.

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              Those 3% (going by your math):

              Pick crops

              Contribute $90 billion or more in tax for the county via sales tax.

              Without those people, we have no food, and immediate inflation begins. You know, the thing everyone was bitching about that was literally caused by Trumps inaction on COVID.

              This affects EVERYONE in the US.

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                Not to mention that the construction industry- particularly housing- just stops.

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                  I did just get a roof put on my house. Small, local business. All the office people were white, the work crew was 100% Hispanic with one bilingual guy who front manned communication. Idk how many were work visa, but given the number of serious injuries I’ve seen from work visas falling off roofs while doing construction and such while at work, it’s not just one company.

                  And before you go down the path of “they’re taking ‘our’ jobs” remember that there is a shortage of skilled labor and trades right now.

                  Also, if a company can pay at or near minimum wage for rappelling up the side of house, would you accept that wage given the liability/injury threat?

                  Housing prices go up in reaction to losing cheap labor, I guarantee it.

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              “Stimpy, sometimes your wealth of ignorance astounds me.” – Ren Höek

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              I know the last time he was in office his immigration policies made it impossible for some people families to come over. I worked with a couple people struggling with that.

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          No single administration has the ability to totally fuck up the country in the amount of time they have.

          Women in need of reproductive health services in red states would like a word.

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          I’ve made a huge mistake breaking my personal rule to avoid all political content and I’ve regretted that immediately

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            Trump was already elected before and quickly became irrelevant after his 4 years.

            And who is going to be the next US President?

            And who is nominating a Russian asset to be DNI?

            And who is nominating a child sex trafficker to be AG?

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              And who is likely to nominate an antivax, anti-science lunatic with brain worms to head the dept of Health and Human Services?

              And who is planning to eliminate the department of education and NOAA?

              Previous administrations have done damage through incompetence and/or malice, but the plan this time is on another level. They’re going in with the goal of breaking everything.

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            Dobbs and Chevron would disagree with your claim of “irrelevant”. You might not be aware, but that’s not the same thing…

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      You mean head of DOGE? Because we live in the timeline where a terminally online edgelord with the brain of a 14yo and the body of a 54yo makes meme government agencies.

      Anyway, get your passport now. They’re good for ten years, enough to last at least through the tentative end of Trump’s circus.

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        Ooh, thanks for the reminder! Mine expires next year. Best renew it now before they fuck that up, too.

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        Just tell all your friends to do a passport. It will be ready if shit hits the fan and they must leave the country.

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        oh yah i just renewed using the new process, got my passport back in less than 2 weeks.