The full list:
I am so stoked and appreciative to see so many great projects underway in the EU. Bad for the US right now but good in the long run.
I’m surprised FF got in with that bunch. Most of them are truly uncompromising OSS projects. Like WINE for example.
FF skirts A LOT of corporate influence…
😍 they know the good stuff
Nobody should ever use the internet without uBlock Origin.
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Not judging the software at all, but the fact that OnlyOffice is owned/developed by a semi-sketchy Russian corporation would probably preclude it from getting any endorsement from a Western government.
Didn’t know that :/ Hmm might switch myself then and delete my recc.
It is endorsed, though?
An open source package that would replace adobe would be a game changer.
Gimp/inkscape
Which Adobe?
The building style?
Someone’s been living in a cave.
That can replace adobe, well done!
I would sacrifice my first unborn kid for this.
I would also sacrifice your first unborn kid for this.
People really would rather sacrifice their unborn child than pay $20 a month smh.
Why not? OP probably got a vasectomy, so there’s no chance that unborn son is happening anyway…
Unethical LPT: Get a vasectomy then offer your firstborn child for material gain as often as you like knowing they can never collect.
Do they also fund these projects?
They are not only no funding but largely not using it in practice and letting most public institution spent billions in Microsoft Office 365 contract
Probably a lot like the actual users of (F)OSS: Not really :p
The SILL About page translated explains the list :
https://code.gouv.fr/sill/readme
Why this catalog?
The socle interministériel de logiciels libres (SILL) is the reference catalog of open-source software recommended by the French government for use throughout the administration.
This catalog helps administrations find their way around the open-source software they are encouraged to use, in line with Article 16 of the French Law for a Digital Republic
Hopefully the French will also endorse Fedora, Red Hat, and Valve’s SteamOS. Microsoft is a huge security issue, since it isn’t clear whether MS would bend to DOGE’s whims. The NLRB and other aspects of the US government had DOGE set up accounts, which were accessed within 15 minutes by Russia.
Why Steam OS? It does what it sets out to do, and probably makes Valve a ton of money.
Donations should go to projects that need it. Valve seems to be doing fine.
on another note… Microsoft export their software and OS to almost every one of our users’ pc while US doesn’t buy any of our OS. Using Trump logic of fairness, we need to tariff US, to balance the trade deficit.
Why RedHat? I thought it’s a bad version of Linux and generally disliked (similar to Broadcom and ESXi).
Why not prefer something based on Debian. As it’s being regarded as very stable I don’t feel like it would interfere with the employees daily job as they don’t need a cutting edge distro like arch.Or why not SUSE? I forget who owns it now, but at least for a while it was owned by an EU firm.
So, I love Debian, and it’s an excellent distro.
But personally something like suse makes more sense, it’s more user friendly and is so German it’s painful.
Can confirm, I use openSUSE and it’s glorious. AFAIK, they don’t accept donations, but they probably would from someone like the French government.
Linux isn’t very good for the casual person at this time, due to conflicting, dated, or missing documentation. If people are to be encouraged to adopt Linux, it should be toward distributions that have official technical support.
Isn’t that the point of donating to it? If the French government wants a specific thing done (say, documentation), they can make the donation go towards that.
Regular people don’t read documentation.
due to conflicting, dated, or missing documentation.
Oh, let’s all use FreeBSD then. Please? Please?
are you suggesting there is documentation for Windows?
It’s sufficiently documented.
It’s just spread across a fuck load of different pages (learn vs. msdn vs. support vs forum).
And the articles are so unnecessary distributed across those pages. And so much articles are missing links to related topics that it’s comically bad.At least the powershell has a partly sound documentation. But very hit or miss.
Windows documentation is an absolute mess. The only reason you can claim it is “documented” is the sheer volume of users, but that’s not necessarily a good thing when suggested fixes include registry edits, disabling security features, and running everything as an admin.
EU and its contries are pro open source and I fucking love it.
Haven’t they also been trying to put back doors into everything for the last decade?
EU is democratic, which also means everyone can propose a law. Never have EU put a backdoor into anything, but its true that there have been law proposals for it.
Never voted through.
EU is not democratic. EU’s ruling entities are formed by governments of member countries. Which are supposedly democratic.
And about never voted through - sometimes putting pressure is enough.
EU Commission and Council are indeed not elected directly, but the Parliement who propose and vote laws is. The way it works is similar to a parlementary republic (where coalitions of parties that includes >50% of MEPs make a governement together).
It’s as democratic as democratic gets on that scale.
The EU isn’t democratic. As opposed to national parliamentary democracies, the European parliament has barely any power compared to the commission which has no democratic legitimacy.
It’s as democratic as democratic gets on that scale.
That is also completely false. There are numerous proposals that would make the EU more democratic, but that’s obviously against the interest of the incumbent neoliberal elite.
It’s as democratic as democratic gets on that scale.
That’s kinda sad.
Yeah I’m going to find a European and suck his dick right now!
…and…and I am going to find a European girl and suck her nipples for as long as she wants.
Any girl
Condition 1 - it has to be a girl Condition 2 - she should be alive
Why hello there
Bonjour!
Good day!
Fr if anyone in the EU wants to host me I’ll be your (32m,pan,switch,cd) live-in maid while I job hunt. Please inquire within.
Hallo
I’m ready.
I wonder if we could get EU to take over some states if we got enough votes to secede in some areas.
EU could potentially make a group category like for Norway or Switzerland, and then take in other countries all around the world to cooperate more and stand together with the EU on some issues.
Canada would be a great candidate. Maybe even Australia, but I dont really know anything about their politics.
Just make a cool kids UN and you’re all set. With blackjack and hookers.
It does kind of feel like the UN could use a refresh. In particular, the veto powers given to certain countries feels bad. There may be good reasons for that system, but the system is not good - and the details of the reasons have definitely shifted over time such that the choice of countries with veto power is now highly questionable.
No cocaine? Forget it, then
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To be clear. This is a government agency endorsing the software as safe and effective. So bureaucrats and employees can’t be reprimanded they use them.
This isn’t the French Prime Minister announcing the country will cancel Microsoft Office subscriptions and build a fund to support FOSS projects. Gimp has nowhere near the ressources they actually need.
It’s still nice! A bit of recognition, legitimacy, and although it’s not funding, it might be a small step towards it. I see many great works, that stand tall on their own. More eyes will only make them shine even brighter.
Thanks, Fr*nce.
VIM…? Safe…?!
Once you start Vim, you don’t even need to activate the lock screen when you leave your desk. Ain’t no-one going to be using that machine for anything nefarious any more.
The full list: https://code.gouv.fr/sill/list
Hold on. That page does not list VLC or KeePass. Is there more info about this other than the list? Or is the info in the title of this post incorrect?
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I see now. The page does not list VLC or KeePass, but those two both do come up if you put them into the search box. The software listed on the page is a very long list, but it is apparently on the ‘most popular’ stuff - not the entire list. (Although it is strange to see a heap of niche stuff, and stuff I’ve never heard of on the ‘most popular’ list while VLC doesn’t make the cut.)
I’m not sure this list is a very strong endorsement by the French Government. It seems to just be listing free software options, and then asking other people to sign up to say which ones they use.
Using the find function on my phone browser doesn’t find it but it does come up when manually scrolling and as long as you don’t move too far the find works. I’m thinking there is some sort of rendering magic going on, would explain why scrolling is so fast.
Probably due to it being a media player vs a list of productivity apps?
I feel like most would forget about VLC until they notice the traffic cone is missing.
The “english” setting does nothing.
It changes the UI text of the website, such as filters, titles, and sorting options, but not the descriptions.
I can’t decide which is worse, a functioning language switch that never included English for the descriptions (which is the only text I actually need translated) or a broken language switch. The way it switches languages is also quite odd, as if it’s asking, ‘Are you sure?’"
just the way the French like it
If they really want to boil our piss, put “English (American)” as the only option. Or or, a little American flag next to “English”. Oo, I’m engaging myself right now.
Redis is also on the list, but not Valkey. Gitea is on the list, but not Forgejo. Still nice to see governments endorsing the open-source-ish software they know and FOSS principles, though!
To be fair, I know redis and gitea (barely, gitlab is way more popular) and not the other two. Enterprise support and name recognition are quite important for government usage.
Valkey was created recently as Redis changed their license, having clauses which made the user choose between being “discriminatory against users of the software that use proprietary software within their stack, as the license requires the open-sourcing of every part interacting with the service, which under these circumstances might not be possible” or being non-commercial. Forgejo was created when Gitea decided to go the JetBrains route a few years ago. It’s since absorbed Gitea’s clout.
The simple answer: nobody is actually reading any of these licenses. I run into the problem constantly and even people who should know better do not (most of our IT staff for example…)
Redis allows a third option, a commercial license.
Yeah, and you have to pay for that. Lots of open source software have enterprise support and usage limit licenses but having to pay for something isn’t open source. I am personally ambivalent at non-commercial licenses but I agree that the restriction against using proprietary software with Redis in commercial usage is kinda bad.
Of course you have to pay for a commercial license, it’s in the name. Development, tooling, support, etc, all costs money.
I like the distinction. If you want to profit from open source, make your code open source. If not, pay up.
I imagine the list will be dynamic. Those projects might be on a list somewhere, just haven’t been vetted yet by their standards. Start with the source projects, then dive through the forks.
That’s kind of quote cool for a government to do IMO.
The first thing any government should do is move away from ms office.
The 2nd thing they should do is fund and contribute to a distro and begin the transition from windows.
